We've decided to start potty training our 22 month old since he can pull down his pants, we've thrown ourselves into it. Now the question is, can 22 month olds be manipulative 😳? This child is something else. If we're having him do something he doesn't want to do, like going down for a nap, he'll start saying potty, if we let him go, he just runs all over the place, I guess forgetting he wanted to use the potty 🤦🏿♀️ Is this a thing? I just go get him and have him sit on the potty and I tell him, "if you say you want to use the potty, then you must use the potty." I feel like I should work on him not "telling lies." But idk what this behavior is. Can 22 month olds be manipulative, and a liar? Someone told me "he's intelligent to know that saying potty will get him out of something he doesn't want to do." I say... this some bull... 😑😒
Another thing, when I try to get him to look at me when I'm trying to tell him he did something wrong, he does not make eye contact. I get down on my knee in front of him, he looks away, I cup his chin with my hand to have him face me, or say "Nordo, look at mommy please," he averts his eyes... you guys 😓 somedays I feel like he's a sociopath 😬 I don't say that out loud though 😅 ugh, I know, I'm CRAZY, but man... what are the chances? lol
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This all sounds normal to me. I wouldn’t say he’s a “liar or manipulative” it’s just how they think. If they want me to do something I don’t wanna do then I’ll say I have to use the potty to prolong going down for a nap. It’s all very normal. If he does that again when trying to go for a nap put him on the potty and sit with him. If he does or doesn’t go then right back to bed for a nap. Just be patient. He’s not a sociopath he’s a normal almost 2 year old. He’s testing his boundaries which is frustrating sure but super normal at that age.
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He’s a smart boy! Not any of those bad things. Yes he can manipulate, kids learn that really young. If you want him to look you in the eye, wait til he will. You have to outlast and outplay him. Make him or let there be consequences. Time out, no toys etc. You be the boss. But stay calm and patient.
@boymama523 ❤ thank you! I will have to outplay him, I have to mentally square up with a 1 yr old 🤣 I could not have seen this day coming. I'm definitely working on patience
When my son was 2 he did this too. Even now when he wants out of something he says it. Even my step son who's 9 uses this excuse to get out of stuff. I've fell for it a few times but I don't any more. Once you tell them to stop lying or they will be in big trouble and stick to it they will stpp doing it. But if you don't stick with it they will keep doing it, lol My kids learned after awhile mommy doesn't play that.
@thatregalmujer I send mine to the potty and they always pee when they say they have to go. My 4 year old had an accident a few weeks ago during a time out bc I thought she was using it as an excuse. So I will no longer make her wait. I have her go and just add time to her timeout. Thankfully she is at a point where I am able to tell her things more and more. She is learning and is really a good little girl most of the time.
@xryztalroze I hope he'll be a good little boy with time, and I do believe as he ages he'll be better, I just have to get through today, and work on his behavior so it'll be better tomorrow
@thatregalmujer we normally make ours go before time out and they still cry to go but when we do let them which is rare they never go . It's just another excuse after the next. Lol
Totally normal and yes they absolutely can manipulate you at this age. Stay the course, teach him to do as you ask, stay firm and he will like, all the other normal babies out there, grow out of it and be just fine.
Glad to read that it's normal and I'm not all the way crazy, lol. Yes, I'm working on staying the course. Sometimes I wonder if I'm just easily annoyed, or if I should just pick my battles. For instance, I don't want him throwing his ball in the house, he does it anyway, and can say "no throw ball," but continues with the behavior. Or he sits on the arm of the sofa (I'm worried he'll fall over,) it's like I don't know what to let go and what to try and change. At that rate, he'll be in time out all day
@thatregalmujer Just stay calm and def if it's a safety thing keep at it. Telling him no about something doesn't always have to mean time out. Take the ball away. Put him in his room if he climbs and won't stop. Keep removing him from the sofa arm. They don't have to like us as their parents. They just have to be able to trust us to keep them safe. They won't always understand and it's a daily battle but the in at the end of the year is totally worth the repetition it takes to get them to victory!!! You've got this.
@xryztalroze ❤❤❤ so much truth and reality in what you said. I'm doing the repitition, it's hard and frustrating, but I've committed to no spanking, it's not a good fit for us, so we have to find a different and effective way to discipline. So repeat, repeat, repeat it is
My boy is at his 20 months. He did the same thing. He used potty around 12 months old. But he said he needs potty a lot of times but did nothing when he was forced to do something he did want to. He even said that when he was scared. The occasion is the worst before he went to sleep. Sometimes he spoke it right away after a pee. I think it may show that he may be nervous and don't know how to express his feelings. He may need more comfort. I told my boy "you just used potty and you don't need it now. 😅Your are uncomfortable because you are sleepy. Calm down and sleep." He usually fell asleep in a short time. He does it now. Hope he can gets rid of it soon.
I think that is good, to help them understand what they are ferling, also letting them know it's ok to feel like that. Thank you!
Just a normal toddler🤣🤣🤣
He is learning and seeing what buttons and what he can get away with it’s all normal
Thank you, I def need to hear this. It is what I believe, but then I think it's what I "want" to believe, my brain is in overdrive, lol, and for this really small thing, what am I gonna do when he gets older? Maybe I'll wear him down overtime
@thatregalmujer, just stand your ground and let him know your the boss and your in charge not him
And he will have his days but he will learn/understand he won’t get away with it
Hes being a typical toddler. Just be repetitive when he does try to trick you, but hes forming his own personality, so trust me, it's not gonna stop here. But its completely normal.
I'm not going to survive a little trickster 🤣 I hope that's not the personality he's forming. Yes to repetitive, even though I feel like it's not making it through to him sometimes. He'll laugh... at me? maybe? lol... sometimes when I'm firm with him, like "hahaha this lady really thinks she can tell me what to do 🤣"
Also, when I was potty training my daughter I made a potty chart. it consisted of a few rules such as: tell Mommy or Daddy when you have to go, no accidents, flush and wash your hands. If she did each one of those things throughout the day she would get to put a sticker of her choice on the chart for the day at the end of the week if she accomplished the chart without any accidents I had a bag full dollar store toys and she would get to pick out a reward. My people would consider that bribing but I considered it a paycheck. She also had a chart for chores and behavior
the potty training for right now, I'm just having him get a feel of not being in a diaper, he does ok with it, it's that he uses, or try to use it, as a way to get out of doing stuff. Like if he's sitting down for a meal, but he doesn't want to be there, he'll say potty. Once I take him out of his chair though, he's running around playing, not going to the potty, so I start to believe sometimes he says it to get out of doing something.
Definitely not a psychopath. He's a kid he's at that age now where he's starting to realize a little bit more how the world works. Technically it is manipulating but it's just him testing his boundaries with you. Just keep trying. Try to stay patient and consistent and eventually you'll get there. He's still pretty young so he may not be fully ready
@thatregalmujer and that's totally understandable. Kids will do that to us in the moment we don't realize the repercussions of her decisions and then we feel like pieces of crap after. Maybe try putting him on the potty first thing in the morning, about 10-15 minutes after he drinks and then right before bed giving him something to keep his hands busy while he's sitting on the potty like a snack a book or his tablet/kindle will help. He'll be too busy focusing on that to get up and he might end up going
@momsrmagical yes, we do all that, the potty training is cool, it's that he uses it as "an excuse" to get out of doing stuff we want him to do
Don't let their age fool you lol. They can be very smart , just not able to speak yet.
smh, I'm ok with him being smart, just not a smart ass, lol
Yup he’s just manipulating you just start putting his tail on the naughty step as far as potty training he might just be messing around to get everyone going just ignoring it will make him 💯times worse
@thatregalmujer, haha girl u might have to stand with him 😂😂 it’s a frustrating age
@kush_queen420 that's probably gonna have to be how it goes... so I'd sit with him but ignore him? He'll climb all over me, try to talk to me, lol, I can see it now
@thatregalmujer, 😂😂yes so when he does that just continue to put him back no talking just keep doing it it’s annoying 😭
This all sounds normal to me. I wouldn’t say he’s a “liar or manipulative” it’s just how they think. If they want me to do something I don’t wanna do then I’ll say I have to use the potty to prolong going down for a nap. It’s all very normal. If he does that again when trying to go for a nap put him on the potty and sit with him. If he does or doesn’t go then right back to bed for a nap. Just be patient. He’s not a sociopath he’s a normal almost 2 year old. He’s testing his boundaries which is frustrating sure but super normal at that age.
Thank you! I'm happy to hear that it's normal for his age. I will just continue to talk to him and follow through. I always stay with him in the potty, he can't pull his underwear back up properly as yet, and he gets up off the potty if he is left alone. Yes, testing boundaries is the right term, lol, thanks!
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Definitely not a psychopath. He's a kid he's at that age now where he's starting to realize a little bit more how the world works. Technically it is manipulating but it's just him testing his boundaries with you. Just keep trying. Try to stay patient and consistent and eventually you'll get there. He's still pretty young so he may not be fully ready