Would you consider this cheating? What would you do
I need advice from a neutral stand point. Genuine advice of what you would do. Ds had his tonsils out last night. For some reason my gut about dh was not good. At night I logged into his Snapchat and saw he was talking to an old friend who he had a thing with. Last thing I was able to see was him saying it was hard to not log into those pictures and she then said she couldn't answer the phone because she was with her husband. I texted dh and asked what pictures was it so hard for him to not look at and I guess he called her and they talked. And she supposedly came clean to me and said they would just talk and vent about what stresses them. Dh said the same thing and I guess the pictures were of them from a long time ago of them and other friends hanging out. Dh started crying saying he never meant anything that everything looked like the perfect crime but that there was nothing there. I have since kept my distance and told him to give me space. At the moment I don't want to see him. I believe what they said but I'm so hurt and I don't want to be the stupid person to believe everything.
Yeeeaaa....your husband is a liar. And so is she. The only reason she "came clean" with half of the truth is so that.. A)they can continue to talk without drama from you. Theyll just hide it better now. Or B)so you wont tell her husband. Or both. They were both being inappropriate. She cant answer her phone in front of her husband because its WRONG for her to be snapchatting other men. And how in the world do they still have old photos to send to eachother? Bullsh*t. They were nudes like the other pp said. Im not trying to be rude but there is no other way to catergorize what your husband is doing besides cheating.
He's crying over all the "nothing" that happened with her?
Yeeeaaah, he's sketch AF. He called her before calling you? He's crying but nothing happened? I think the reason you're feeling so distant is because you know a huge line was crossed. They're both dead wrong. And I would reach out to get husband to see if he's seen any fed flags, too.
I wouldn't believe it for a second. You only get the lesser offense when they are "confessing". I'm not saying that more happened physically, but I would bet my ass that those pics were inappropriate pics of her and they both agreed on what they should say the pics were when they talked. I'm not saying leave... but I'm saying I wouldn't stop until I felt I had the truth and some type of course to take to remedy whatever situation it ends up being... counseling maybe? Also, Snapchat is shady as hell anyway. It allows pics to be sent, seen once, and then no record? What is honest about that app?
He's not apologetic because he feels bad he told you he knew you wouldn't want him speaking to her so he hid it strike 1 ! He's upset because he got caught he never came to you and told you what was going on and he felt bad about it strike 2 ! & too call her sounds a bit off the first call he should've made to her should've been in front of you and deleting innocent pictures ? As soon as I read it I thought nudes of some sort I'm sorry you're going through this op and hopefully you're being told the truth but only time will tell
I don't think just venting to someone of opposite sex is cheating what so ever. But, there are other little details here that may make it cross the line. My husband and I both vent to coworkers all the time (even about each other) and we don't care if they are male or female. My husband currently is the only male on his shift at work so he has no choice haha. And I would always talk to all my coworkers about random things, males and females. But, neither of us had history or anything with any of them.
It doesn't sound like they were physically cheating but I believe some emotional play has been going on. A line has definitely been crossed. There's no need for them to have been talking on the phone. Why was it so hard for him to look at these pictures? Do feelings still exist? It sure does come across that way. I don't blame you for wanting space at all. I would feel betrayed. If he needed someone to vent to, it should be you. He needs to cut off all communication with her if he wants to save his marriage with you. Continuing this relationship with her will only cause more problems. I hope things get better for you OP. ?
I've found my husband talking to this one particular ex a few times and he would always try to hide it and cover it up. We both got rid of all social media over a year ago and that helped but I also made him block her number. He chose to delete it also, which was fine with me. When he did that I told him to put himself in my position. How would you feel if the tables were turned and I did that to you? I think all communication with her should be cut off.
ETA I find it very shady though that he had to call her. Did they have to make sure they told the same story or something? That's not okay
I'd tell her husband what she's been up to. Not in a crazy way. Just ask if he knew what had been going on type of thing and spill the beans. I'm petty tho. I do believe that its an affair of some sort and I feel like maybe he isn't telling the whole truth. I'd make him explain the story at random times to see if it matches up cause I'm sure it will change. Hugs op
So he deleted "innocent" "friend" pictures yet they can't talk if they're around their spouses? He called her when you found out and had HER call YOU and send you photos (that were probably different ones)?! He was so racked with guilt he was crying, yet nothing happened?? Hmmmm.....I think there's more to this OP. Definitely an emotional thing in my opinion. And why would he say "it was so hard for me not to go look at the photos"? That to me sounds like they were sexy photos
Sounds shady.. He deleted the photos she sent him and she then sent them to you? She probably sent different pics to you. And sounds like she shouldn't be talking to him either since she wouldn't pick the phone up when he called her and husband was around.. All sounds to shady to me!
I don't believe for one second they were innocent "hanging out" pictures.
He is aware that she can not answer because of her husband. I am sure she is aware he has to do the same around you. I believe they both are lying. He is sorry he hurt you? Then why do it. He got caught and obviously that is the thing to say.
I don't think anything else had happened, but with their history I would say the talking/venting was definitely inappropriate and that it was likely bringing old feelings up.
I think your DH's reaction was bc he knows it was crossing a boundary & not safe. But he may not want to admit that.
I don't think people realize how easy it is to end up in a place like that that you didn't really intend on. Many things seem perfectly innocent but just aren't safe places, relationships, conversations, etc for someone married. Confiding in the opposite sex, regardless of history or not, is one of them.
They never had sex I know that for a fact. He said the pictures were deleted. And she sent me the pictures nothing bad that she sent. But why delete them? He said because he knew I wouldn't like him talking to her then why the FACK talk to her?!? I'm so hurt i dont know what to do
The definition of cheating varies so much from person to person, but it definitely qualifies as betrayal. This hurt you, and I think he knew that if you found out that it would hurt you. The fact that you were hurt is enough. A spouse should never participate in anything that he or she thinks would hurt their spouse.
If he's being honest, it sounds like you caught him right in time. It definitely sounds like he beginning of an emotional affair. Which to me is still serious and I would have major trust issues. I recommend counseling, if he went to someone else for comfort other than you then something probably isn't right. I'm sorry your going through this. I would be beside myself.
I agree with all the above, the start of an emotional affair.. as why couldn't she answer her phone with her husband there if they are 'just good friends'. You have every right to feel hurt and betrayed, you both need to sit down for an open chat, try stay calm and get to the bottom of why he was going to her for emotional support and not you.
Thinking of you and sending you massive hugs. Your relationship could come out stronger than ever if you handle this right, no need to end things. Unless things are worse than he's saying, but just start with the knowledge you do have. X
Totally agree with @runs on this one. If u hadn't seen it what would or could have happened next?!?! Seems like the start of an emotional affair. He was caught in the act and made sure he called her to get their stories straight. I wouldn't run to separate or divorce but I would definitely seek some counseling about this!! He should not be venting to another women about anything!!! And I'm sure they were both venting about marriage and what not. I would be very hurt if I were in your situation. And it would take a lot for me to trust him again. Sorry your going through this. Luckily it was caught (hopefully) before any physical activity went on
He overstepped. You're not wrong to be upset. You have every right to take some space and process your feelings over this. It's important that you talk through it eventually but if you need time, take it.
That situation had the potential to go very wrong. The fact that they were both hiding it from their spouses suggests that they knew something was inappropriate. Your husband needs to cut contact with this woman and earn your trust back.
I tend to think that when someone does something like this, they only ever tell you half the truth. What the other half is, who knows? However, from what he has done so far, I agree with pp, and believe it's emotional cheating.
Personally, I wouldn't break up a marriage, especially with children in it, over emotional cheating. I would however, have a physical break and seek professional help. This is be hard to get passed and forgive, so it needs an intervention.. Good luck and I'm so sorry he put you and your family through this.
I would call that (at the least) the start of an emotional affair.
Going outside the marriage to vent to the opposite sex is dangerous. Even if he didn't intend for it to be so I would say lines were definitely overstepped, especially given the previously established history.
You're right to have your feelings about it.
Sorry it's all over the place. I haven't slept in two nights and just got home from the hospital with ds
Yesterday I went out with my boyfriend went to watch a movie, me and him don't live together yet. but point is yesterday when he was dropping me off his like sleep over at my house witch the mom and dad lives. I said no,
his response was why is everyone deciding or making choices for you and their going to do the same with the baby, when I know that's not true. what he thinks is that my mom tells me not to sleep over. So he left all mad. and I felt in my heart that he went on and cheated on me...
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