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miss_understood
Shannon·Мама дочки (2 года), беременна (28 нед.)

This isn't mom related but I see a trend in people bashing women for staying with their spouse after infidelity. Or giving them poor advice that they should leave immediately. Narrow minded people shouldn't give advice. It takes a mature person to stay and work on their relationship after infedelity and plus, it's not easy to get up and walk away from something that took years to build. Women are judged and ridiculed for mostly everything they do so I can imagine the fear of being called desperate or stupid because you decide to work it out with your man. And the people who say "oh my man would never do that " need to wake up because no one is exempt from cheating. I dont care how good he is to you or how much he's there with you. He's probably cheating on you right now and you dont even know it. Bottom line is, the advice we should be giving to these women is not "you should leave, he doesn't love you" because that's not always the case, even people in the happiest relationships/marriages cheat. What we should say is "this is your decision, you're the one in the relationship and only you know your man's heart. Take as much time as you need to decide what you will do next." That's it. You can never make decisions based off your emotions. Anyone with maturity knows that. Keep your heads up ladies. You're strong. You're more than enough. Dont ever let someone think cheating is a result of YOU.

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laniejay
Lanie Jay·Мама троих детей

I disagree with you completely. Simply because it isnt a path you would choose, doesn't make it a poor or immature decision. Not every man cheats and to try to tell other women "hes probably cheating right now" simply because they have faith in their vows is childish.

Marriage is a vow. Cheating breaks that vow and those the marriage is broken and will never be the same again, nor can it be as strong. Cheating isnt just infidelity. Its broken trust, disrespect, and much more.

When I married, my husband and I were on the same page. There are 2 ways to divorce- abuse and infidelity.

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harleyquinn13
Harley Quinn ·Мама двоих (младенец)

Um. I see where you are coming from but cheating is never okay. Yes, I’m all for trying to make a marriage work, but sometimes walking away and being the bigger person is the answer.

If everything is going great in a marriage, a partner wouldn’t cheat. People cheat because something isn’t to their par. And that’s where communication is most important.

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feeneythepotstirrer
Thisisfeeney·Мама двоих (1 год, 3 года)

The posts I see where women are telling the poster they should leave are ones that say something along the lines of...

“I saw this in my SOs phone he has a history of cheating should I be worried?”

Something a long those lines. In that case yes they should end things. That constant worrying is not working on things and it drives you crazy. It’s not worth it.

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massmomma16
MassMomma16·Мама дочки (2 года)

Lol not all men cheat. So the “he’s probably cheating on you right now” is pretty ignorant to say. But I get what you’re saying but it definitely depends on the situation. I usually suggest counseling before calling it quits. Every relationship is different. Some can be saved and some can’t. Some shouldn’t.

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miss_understood
Shannon·Мама дочки (2 года), беременна (28 нед.)

Never said all men cheat. The statement "hes probably cheating right now" only goes to say it's not guaranteed your man won't cheat. But yea I agree not all relationships can be saved but if a couple trys, that's ok too.

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morganmommy79
Marilu·Мама троих детей

I totally get what you’re saying. When I first joined the app and complained about my husband 😳 I got third degree from the self righteous crew and everyone told me to leave. He didn’t even cheat he’s just a jerk 😂

I took my vows seriously tho. I’m here to work this 💩 out. Now if he cheats I’m def walking away to clear my thoughts. If we work it out cool, but if he would cheat again, goodbye. But even once I would never look at him the same again so not sure it would work but for those women who are strong like that, I admire their strength.

My cousin cheated on his fiancé and got both pregnant at the same time. They were young, too, and already had a child. She chose to work it out. He paid child support for 18 years and she has never left his side. They are married and had 2 more children after that. He promised her to never cheat again and he proves it to her by being an open book. He won’t even go anywhere alone anymore.

But to the players, repeat offenders ... 👋🏼

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miss_understood
Shannon·Мама дочки (2 года), беременна (28 нед.)

Yes! This is so good. I love hearing stories like that and I'll never belittle someone for their own decision to work things out. There are cases where the person is just using you and it might be time to go, but at the end of the day, you're not weak or foolish no matter what you decide to do. And I'm glad you mentioned that it wouldn't work for YOU because that's ok. It doesn't work for a lot of people.

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coffeebean
🌸GoodVibeTribe🌸·Мама троих детей

I really love this💕 I understand cheating isn’t okay and shouldn’t happen but until it happens to you in your relationship it’s not that simple to understand why some choose to stay. But I love this post & honestly agree with it💜 good for you for putting it out there and taking the heat💪🏽

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miss_understood
Shannon·Мама дочки (2 года), беременна (28 нед.)

Thank you ❤ Bottom line, you won't know how you will react in most situations until it happens to you! Also, nothing in life is guaranteed. Thank you for being open minded about this topic

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coffeebean
🌸GoodVibeTribe🌸·Мама троих детей

@miss_understood, exactly!! And no doubt! I can’t lie, I used to be pretty closed minded on this subject where I was that person saying he don’t love you just leave, but then I was in a similar situation where I realized things aren’t always just black and white. There’s a gray area in there and that seems to be where most couples fall into .

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del_1552090138_elvira8701

I don’t bash but I will defin advise women to leave if that man is cheating or toxic or problematic . Too often women are held in bondage in these fucked up marriages . Too often women lose themselves in becoming mothers and wives . Women should understand they have options and don’t have to put up with no cheating or abusive man.

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miss_understood
Shannon·Мама дочки (2 года), беременна (28 нед.)

No doubt. You can give her encouragement all day which is just you looking out for her and being honest about things she may not be able to see because she's on the inside. But I'll just say if she still decides to stay, she's probably not doing it because she's weak. Maybe she's thinking about the good things opposed to dwelling so much on the incident. Or maybe there's big history that is hard to throw away in a split second

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del_1552090138_elvira8701

@miss_understood, yea if a woman decides to stay. I don’t say anything. That is her choice but I also know how to remove myself from toxic friendships. You not gone keep using my emotional labor and talking about how the man ain’t no good but still laid up with him. I will leave that friendship if it’s toxic.

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miss_understood
Shannon·Мама дочки (2 года), беременна (28 нед.)

@elvira8701 I actually lost a friend from this years ago. I kept getting so frustrated because she would repeatedly cry over the same guy and he continued to treat her bad. I didn't call her dumb or belittle her. I just felt horrible for watching her stay in the relationship and watch her cry. I think if the guy made some changes and really felt remorseful enough to stop making her cry, we would still be friends but I couldn't watch

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a.mama22
A·Мама двоих (младенец)

Instead of putting an emphasis on “don’t cheat” my husband and I put an emphasis on open communication. If he cheats, I’d rather have him be honest with me so he doesn’t have to hide it and we can try to work through it together. If you constantly emphasize “don’t cheat” then both partners may go out of their way to hide infidelity if it does happen and I don’t want him lying just so I won’t leave him. And should something happen on my end, I don’t want to have to lie just to keep him around. I want us to be able to tell each other anything and everything. We discuss cheating regularly. My husband told me he’d probably stay with me even if I cheated on him because what we have is worth working on no matter what. I obviously don’t plan on cheating but knowing that he loves me unconditionally is a good feeling. I love our marriage and I love our openness towards the topic. I love that we’re both mature enough to know that people make mistakes. I also love that neither of us feel suffocated and controlled. My dad actually cheated on my mom A LOT throughout their marriage. He hid it so she’d stay with him. She found out years down the road and after 20 years of marriage they divorced because she couldn’t handle the lies. I’m hoping to avoid that situation completely by always being honest with my husband no matter what.

But I agree with you! I will never tell someone to leave and I will never tell someone to stay. I will always tell people it’s their decision and I’ll support them no matter what.

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miss_understood
Shannon·Мама дочки (2 года), беременна (28 нед.)

@aengs2 Omg I love you lol

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a.mama22
A·Мама двоих (младенец)

@miss_understood, Aww! 😘 I love your willingness to discuss tough topics with an open mind.

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miss_understood
Shannon·Мама дочки (2 года), беременна (28 нед.)

@aengs2 Thank you !

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sarahbethk
Sarah·Мама двоих (1 год, 2 года)

To me, this seems similar to the people you’re saying shouldn’t bash women who stay. Sometimes it takes someone saying “get the fuck out” to work up the courage to leave. And to say that they’re probably cheating right now just seems unnecessarily judgemental. Some people truly have great, strong relationships. And I’ve been through some shit with my husband, and I decided to stay. It’s taken a lot of gut checks, hard ass work from both of us, and I’m still working through it sometimes. But sometimes if both aren’t willing to work, if someone isn’t truly remorseful, if the relationship is already broken beyond repair then infidelity is the last straw, leaving really is best for everyone.

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miss_understood
Shannon·Мама дочки (2 года), беременна (28 нед.)

Yes you can definitely say "hey Ashley what are you doing? He's not right for you" but if she STILL decides to stay even after someone from the outside pointed out that it's best to leave, then so be it. It says nothing about her character. It says nothing about how strong or weak she is. I feel like the line about he may be cheating right now struck a nerve with people because it placed some kind of fear in their hearts. Sorry for this. But that line was to mention that nothing in life is guaranteed. It would also be rude for me to say you'll probably get hit by a bus today and in fact, yes that could happen. But pointing that out is harmful and makes people uneasy so I apologize for that part

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naturalmama
Asya ♡·Мама двоих (1 год, 7 лет)

Sorry that was an accident

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naturalmama
Asya ♡·Мама двоих (1 год, 7 лет)
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mommaofjandm
·Мама сына (1 год)

This killed me 😂 all this serious talk and then BAM zombie

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naturalmama
Asya ♡·Мама двоих (1 год, 7 лет)

@mommaofjais 😂😂😂😫😫 I was reading and put my phone down and my son pushed something and I didnt know how to delete it lol

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squishymommy1
squishymommy1·Многодетная мама (6 детей)

I agree with most of this. I don’t think all men cheat (I don’t know how some men are even able to get a women to fuck them let alone marry them...but that’s another story). Anywho we’ve had infidelity issues many years ago. Our marriage is STRONGER now then it ever was before that.

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miss_understood
Shannon·Мама дочки (2 года), беременна (28 нед.)

Thank you for this testimony! This is my point. You decided to work on your relationship and its stronger than ever. And I dont want to confuse anyone. I never said all men cheat. I just put it out there that no one is exempt. I know people's feelings will be hurt because they dont want to believe their spouse is cheating but how many times have we seen instances where someone THOUGHT the relationship was wonderful and later found out their spouse cheated. Nothing in life is guaranteed

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lii94
Lisa·Мама сына (1 год)

Its also very narrow minded to tell women all of our SO's are "probably" cheating on us right now. Instead of putting all women in the same pot, you've put all men in the same pot.

And yes, to me personally, i don't care if we've been together for 20 years, if he cheats its done. 🤷‍♀️ cheating (imo) clearly means theres not only no love, he doesn't respect me anymore, and i will never trust him again. So 🤷‍♀️ i can work on our relationship all i want, that trust is just gone. I also wouldn't call someone stupid for staying, its their life not mine.

Everyone is going to have different opinions on this one, i respect that you believe it should be worked on though, in some cases it just isn't for everyone.

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miss_understood
Shannon·Мама дочки (2 года), беременна (28 нед.)

That's my point lol why are people getting offended? Here's the bottom line, if your man cheats and you want to work on it, great! It's no one else's relationship. Your not stupid, you're not weak. Other thing is, I didnt say all men cheat, I'm saying no one is exempt. Meaning there's no guarantee which is a very true statement. And the reason I added that your man may be cheating right now is because he probably is, he probably isn't! Who knows and who cares? Only you can decide what to do. This topic isn't black and white which is why it's hard for people to accept

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del_1569201497_denissemt

I see where you’re coming from but if you get cheated on i don’t understand why you would want to stay with someone that claims they love you yet they hurt you. It can take years to build something but only seconds to destroy it. I don’t judge anyone who decides to stay, but i personally wouldn’t stay because i refuse to put myself in a position where I’ll second guess everything since the trust has gone down the drain.

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miss_understood
Shannon·Мама дочки (2 года), беременна (28 нед.)

And I like that you said "personally " I wouldn't. That works for you. My only point is that calling someone weak or stupid for staying is wrong and no one really knows what they would do until they are in that situation.

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raisinglittlegamers
Uhhhh·Мама двоих (2 года, 6 лет)

I'm going to have to disagree a bit. If a man is continuing to cheat on you then he doesn't respect you point blank 🔊.

I do believe that men can change and sometimes it really is a one time thing.

Also is kinda fucked up to say all men cheat, I don't believe that.

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miss_understood
Shannon·Мама дочки (2 года), беременна (28 нед.)

@nerdymommyplus2 Like I said, sorry for offending you. Not sure what else you want but I'm not gonna kiss your ass so 🤪

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raisinglittlegamers
Uhhhh·Мама двоих (2 года, 6 лет)

@miss_understood

I'm not even offended 😂. I love how a few other people said the same thing but you only attack me

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miss_understood
Shannon·Мама дочки (2 года), беременна (28 нед.)

@nerdymommyplus2 Yes mamn because you're the only one who keeps going. I clarified what I meant...that should be it. What more do you want????

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jleona
Jaz·Мама троих детей

I completely agree with this. Cheating is never okay, but to bash someone for staying with their partner and choosing to forgive them for their actions is ridiculous. Some ppl are willing to work through it, others arent. To each their own.

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laniejay
Lanie Jay·Мама троих детей

I disagree with you completely. Simply because it isnt a path you would choose, doesn't make it a poor or immature decision. Not every man cheats and to try to tell other women "hes probably cheating right now" simply because they have faith in their vows is childish.

Marriage is a vow. Cheating breaks that vow and those the marriage is broken and will never be the same again, nor can it be as strong. Cheating isnt just infidelity. Its broken trust, disrespect, and much more.

When I married, my husband and I were on the same page. There are 2 ways to divorce- abuse and infidelity.

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laniejay
Lanie Jay·Мама троих детей

@miss_understood there are multiple comments on this post reading your post the same way I am. Which would lead one to believe the message wasn't conveyed properly

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miss_understood
Shannon·Мама дочки (2 года), беременна (28 нед.)

@laniejay Ok, so after I explained what I meant, you're still going. If you took the time to read their comments and didnt read my responses, that's not my problem and quite frankly, you're opinion is not interesting enough for me to entertain so I'm just going to leave it right here. It seems on every post you make, you can never see the other person's side or even try to understand so it's useless to debate with you

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laniejay
Lanie Jay·Мама троих детей

@miss_understood seems to be you're the one looking for a debate with everyone on here...

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reneex
Jasmine·В ожидании первенца

Every relationship is going to be different. You’re not going to have the same morals as everyone else

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miss_understood
Shannon·Мама дочки (2 года), беременна (28 нед.)

Definitely. I just wish their wasn't so much judgment as and criticism around what people decide to do with their relationships

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harleyquinn13
Harley Quinn ·Мама двоих (младенец)

Um. I see where you are coming from but cheating is never okay. Yes, I’m all for trying to make a marriage work, but sometimes walking away and being the bigger person is the answer.

If everything is going great in a marriage, a partner wouldn’t cheat. People cheat because something isn’t to their par. And that’s where communication is most important.

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harleyquinn13
Harley Quinn ·Мама двоих (младенец)

@miss_understood, it one thing to “stay” because they are afraid. That’s not cool. They want to be miserable and let their man run around and play stupid. I think that’s where the issue stems from, most people have an issue with women who stick around with men that aren’t willing to work on a marriage.

It has to go both ways.

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miss_understood
Shannon·Мама дочки (2 года), беременна (28 нед.)

@littleonemorning Yes mamn. I think this applies to two parties who are willing to work on their relationship. So if both people are willing to work it out and make changes, it can definitely be successful. I should have elaborated more and touched base on people who cheat and aren't willing to change. These are dangerous relationships and it's going to take the betrayed person some kind of epiphany for them to see they deserve better

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harleyquinn13
Harley Quinn ·Мама двоих (младенец)

@miss_understood, agreed. I got where you were trying to go with your post, but certain things could have been worded a little different. Everyone has different stances on cheating and while i personally am not okay with it, I’m all for trying to give it your all.

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