What do you consider sexual assault? **Possible Trigger

The guy who stuck up for these women is getting backlash from this now. I feel bad for him.

This obviously has something to do with the kiss cam because it is creating a culture where kissing is expected. If they moved on when a person clearly doesn't want to kiss it would be one thing, but staying on the couple creates an expectation that there is something to see. Combine that with a bunch of idiots who force that expected thing to happen and you have sexual assault. It is not ok and the way the kiss cam is operated is partly at fault, as is the crowd and the men involved.

At first I was going to say no because they could just refuse but after reading the letter yes I would consider that sexual assault. The girls said no and were forced to either by the man or the people around her.

I don't think the kiss cam is at fault but if it is causing these sorts of problems it's probably best to be taken down. Even if they fire the man directing it, people will still do as they please. The man may not have known those two were a couple but as soon as the woman said no he should have moved on to the next.

Anything sexual that was forced, or unwanted, etc is for sure sexual assault. Even being touched or grabbed when you didn't want to be or when you said no, is assault/harassment. People need to learn boundaries & keep their unwanted hands off people!!

It's sad that they felt the need to force someone into something because a camera was pointed on them. The thing is the guy who wrote the letter to the editor said he wasn't trying to get them to kill the kiss cam but that the college needs to get a handle on these students that clearly thought it was appropriate to force a woman into something she didn't want

After reading the article, the men who forced a kiss onto the women should be charged. The kiss cam doesn't have anything to do with it.

I'm in Buffalo.

According to who wrote the article she was forced. Both people were forced. I just look at it this way. What if that was my daughter? How would I feel about it then?

I like the one where the lady rejected the guy and the guy proceeded to kiss his soda and then drink it.

Just reject it. Or kiss something you own. No one is forced to do anything.

But one can feel the pressure being on the screen and feel forced...so idk.

@Sunshine please let me know if that ever happens. I want to know your SOs reaction! ?

@Gammom I posted the article in the comments. It better explains the situation than I did.

How were they forced to kiss a man they didn't know?? A crowd cheering you on doesn't force you to kiss anyone... Did the man physically grab the woman's face?

Nvm- I think the guys that pushed them together we're at fault not the kiss cam

Being touched sexually in a way you dont want or welcome.

If I ever got caught on the kiss can, I'd lick so's face. Just saying.

Peanut butter I sure am. Where are you from?!

I haven't read the comments, but are you talking about the Syracuse kiss cam? I've been seeing that in the news here.

I probably would have too. Or at least smacked him across the face. How about that for your kiss cam?!

It's not ok that she said no and he grabbed her and did it anyway. I'd probably punch him in the face.

@Rmcarr sorry I wasn't trying to be rude. I didn't realize it sounded that way.

@iceburg your picture freaks me out lol.

Ok well excuse me for not seeing your comment with the original article. It's not like you said on the OP that you were going to post the article.

The guys and people that pushed her head to make her kiss him are at fault. NOT the camera men. You can't blame them for a guy kissing a girl without her consent. Whether the camera stayed on them or not, they still didn't force him to kiss her against her will.

What if the kiss cam was on siblings??

Lock lips with your brother???

No the person directing the cam is NOT the fault. That's like saying, she was dressed like a prostitute so she deserved it. Both those men made choices to force those women to kiss them despite them saying no and resisting. So yes, that absolutely is sexual assault, but is not the cams fault (although I would give better training to those running it).

The women involved in this didn't come forward yet. But I can imagine they may be embarrassed. I don't think they should take the kiss cam down but if someone says no take the camera off of them and move on.

I don't think the kiss camera is wrong, I think the way the men went about it is wrong. Just because the kiss cam lands on you doesn't mean you have to kiss somebody. Both men should have just ignored it and the camera would have moved on.

If either one said No, it is sexual assault. Even in married couples, both parties must consent to the act of touching/kissing/sex, otherwise it is RAPE.

The article is posted in the comments. Read it.

I must be confused. I'm having a hard figuring out how these women were "forced" into kissing random men.

This is the letter he wrote.

To the Editor:

I've been meaning to write this letter all week after going to the Syracuse University-Wake Forest game last week, but your story on the Mets kiss cam inspired me to actually do it.

During the kiss cam break at the Syracuse game last weekend I saw some horrifying behavior that was met with cheers and applause from the crowd. It made me sick to my stomach.

The first two people (and probably most people that wind up on the kiss cam) were happy to oblige the camera. However, the cameraman then scanned into the student section where a young man and a young woman were shown. Clearly not a couple, the male student pleaded his case for a kiss on the big screen while the female adamantly shook her head no. So what does this guy do? He grabs her head and shoves his tongue down her throat, the crowd cheers.

The next "couple" shown were again students that were clearly not a couple. Again, this second female in question shakes her head no. I then see no less than six sets of hands from the seats around her shove her unwilling face into his, crowd cheers.

This is completely unacceptable behavior by the male students, the surrounding students and the crowd. It makes me sick that in a day and age where sexual assault (particularly on college campuses) is so rampant that school officials would allow such a display to happen.

The instances I witnessed at the game encourage and condone sexual assault and a sense of male entitlement, at best. And they are an actual instance of assault, at worst.

No one has the right to forcefully touch someone be it a hug, a kiss or a violent rape.

I adamantly insist that Syracuse University student government, the chancellor, the athletic director, etc. review what happened last weekend and seriously consider the ramifications of what they are encouraging.

Whether it was out of innocence or ignorance, it is still unacceptable to allow a student to be forcefully touched on a Jumbotron accompanied by cheers from the crowd. It's disgusting.

Steve

Manlius

The kiss cam people don't know if you're a couple or not. They weren't forced into it. Ignore the camera and go about the game. It is seriously a stretch to call it sexual assault. Annoying? Yes. Sexual? No.

PP the people directing the kiss cam wouldn't take the camera off of the people after they said no. So whoever was directing the kiss cam was at fault.

Thank you! People are getting defensive over them wanting to stop using the kiss cams. I mean I know my fiancé would have a field day with someone if I was forced to kiss someone when it was unwanted.

I don't see how the kiss cam is at fault. If a man forcibly kissed a woman on the cam, that's on him, not the college.

I don't see how a kiss can is promoting sexual assault. The people aren't forced to kiss, you are capable of saying no and walking away. But kissing against your will is definitely a form of sexual assault.