Potty Training *Updated*
Why is there such a push to do it so early?
Personally, we've started potty training at a year. Is this early - yes. Our training though is let Isaac run around without a diaper on and every 30 min or so for either the morning or afternoon, we sit on the potty and sing a song, clap, whatever. He also gets a treat (1/4 of a baby cookie).
If he pees, he gets to flush the flush...as many times as he wants. He gets so excited he vibrates and it's adorable. We have a potty dance time and then we leave the bathroom.
If he doesn't pee or if he pees on the floor or if he pees in a diaper right after it gets put on, who cares? He's a year old - I don't expect him to get it anytime soon.
But, I do think giving him the option of potty time is a good thing.
-It gives him the opportunity to do what he wants with his own body.
-We don't force potty time or get angry ever. He did a good job just because.
-It gives him the chance to recognize that he has an alternative (therefore a choice) to his diaper at that time. He's cloth diapered so he knows when he's wet. He will also go over to the potty now and tug at his diaper if he needs to pee. Not all the time, but sometimes.
-We don't have a time frame on 'when' he'll be potty trained. It'll happen when it happens.
-We aren't creating a habit of 'use the diaper to poo/pee' without another option. We understand he has a teeny bladder so he needs his diapers but if he feels the need to go and recognizes it, the potty is there.
There's a right way and a wrong way to do anything. Right is doing what works for your kid - wrong is punishing them for a biological function at a year old. The lazy comment really ticked me off and gives moms like me who do start potty training early a bad name. It's not laziness, it's picking up on what you're child wants to do and if they are ready to start. It's not a race to get my child potty trained - it's a journey and it works for OUR lifestyle
I don't feel waiting until a child is 2-3 is always necessary and it's not being lazy but I think if people start earlier, they need to recognize that this is a choice for the child (yay, choices!) and it will take a LONG time...and that it's okay for it to take a long time. Basically, it should always be positive reinforcement, never shaming, and never punishing. It's just a fun thing in our house. Isaac loves his potty time and if he cried, we would definitely wait.
I try to stay away from pull ups. The process goes so quickly, I don't feel the need to use them.
Thanks! Funny thing is I don't really remember this post but I liked all of your comments on it when it was originally posted ?
So far we don't have any signs of readiness but he has been telling me when he's already gone, which is new. I'm in no hurry though, I'm not ready to say goodbye to his little fluff butt ?
By your signs, my son is ready for potty training. He pulls on his diaper, or gets a new one and brings it to me when he needs changed. He sits in a squatting position to poop. He goes roughly the same time daily. And he often wakes up with a dry diaper. (He's 9 months! He really is smart for his age) I think I will buy a potty and just see what he does with it. I'm not going to seriously push it until he's one though.
Potty training signs:
He can verbalize or show you in some way that he needs to go, not just that he's already gone.
He starts to hide or stands/ squats in place to poop.
He starts having bowel movements at the same time each day.
He starts to wake up from bedtime and naps with a dry diaper.
He shows an interest in going potty and does not have a fear response when placed on the potty.
Once these milestones are reached it's time to start. I block out a two week span of time to be at home with no major outings. Though it usually takes less time. Make sure that anyone caring for your child knows that you have begun the process. If you are a working mom it's best to start when you have a couple days off at home and let his daycare know that you are actively training. Some kids respond well to lots of excitement and praise, others become frightened or overstimulated by the pressure to "perform". Decide what level of enthusiasm is best for your child and go from there.
My ds was fully potty trained at 18 months. Literally took three days. My dd is almost 2 1/2 years old, and wants absolutely nothing to do with potty training. She will scream and cry if I sit her there. I'm not about to traumatize my kid just because I hate changing diapers. It sucks, but she will get it one day. I highly doubt she will be going to kindergarten in diapers ;)
My son started trying to climb on the potty around 18 months, so I bought him a potty chair. He's 25 months now and seems pretty solidly potty trained. I put a diaper on him if we'll be sleeping late, but otherwise he seems to just go to the potty of his own accord. He does like me to sit with him while he poops, though. Haha.
I think it's really an individual thing. There's no need to rush and stress over a kid who's obviously not ready yet. Personally, I think they should be pretty well there by 3, but it's not a developmental emergency if they're not. I worked at a preschool and there were lots of kids there that knew exactly what was up and would stand there and poop themselves when you just asked if they needed to go potty. That's frustrating, but obviously they'll be potty trained eventually. If a parent wants to deal with an older kid in diapers, that's their prerogative, not mine.
Brunch, I will respond when I have a minute. Things are crazy busy right now!
I'm potty training my two and half year old. I don't want to since he's my baby and I can change any diaper in less than 30 seconds, but he wants to go to preschool and its a requirement. So here I am one week into it. He's doing pretty well he has a couple accidents when he first wakes up from bed or nap time which is my fault for not rushing him to the potty right when he wakes up. Also when he's doing some fun activity I HAVE to ask him every 10 minutes if he has to go otherwise he will go on himself to not miss a minute of playtime. It's a lot more work than just changing a diaper but he can't go to school in diapers... I don't see what the rush is at 6 months! I can see before the age of 4 is beneficial though.
When my oldest was 3 is when we decided she was ready after looking up all the signs. One of the big ones is bladder control, not just knowing when they are wet or dirty. When I put her on the potty with a glass of juice in front of a movie I expected her to go. 1 movie and 4 glasses of juice later she still hadn't gone! I was seriously confused until she started crying. I put her on the big potty and still, nothing. I pushed on her bladder a little and she started freaking out. I realized she was hurting from holding it! She was just scared to go even though we had been getting her used to the potty and teaching her about it for months before that. I talked her into just relaxing and letting it out... Boy I've never seen so much pee come out of a 3 year old! We were done training her that very day! Now we are in the middle of training our son who is closer to 3 and a half. He's just now learning how to recognize the feeling and hold it and we are about half way there after only a few days. I can see how some might develop the ability to train sooner, but most children just don't fall into that category! I don't know why anyone would put themselves and their child through the misery of doing this for months on end, especially when the child has no idea or control over what's going on with their parts down there!
@Yaya- (and anyone else who can answer) what are the signs of readiness?
I have a bright two year old that hates diaper changes so much that he'll lie when asked if he pooed or peed. He simply doesn't want to stop playing for a change. I've read some kid's books about potty training to him to gauge his response and he expressed an interest in the potty. But when we tried he wouldn't use it at all. We're putting it on hold for now but I want to know what signs to look for for the future.
My ds wasn't potty trained until 3 1/2 years old. I started when he was about 2 1/2. When he went he went on his own while he was in the hospital. My dd was potty trained at 2 1/2. I introduced her to the potty and I tried training her at 18 months. I noticed she wasn't ready so I left it alone. One day she took off her pamper and used the potty on her own. I plan on letting my 22 month old potty when she is ready.
I'll never understand why someone would think that it's easier to struggle with potty training for 6 months or longer when it can be done in 2 weeks. If it's taking that long it means they weren't even close to ready when you started. I'm using a general "you", it's not directed at anyone in particular.
My son is 9 months (almost 10) and we want to start setting him on the potty soon. We won't really start trying to train him until he's one but he's very smart and I think he will get it at an early age. Diapers are very expensive, I wouldn't want to sit in my poo for any amount of time, that has to be uncomfortable, and I think it would make him happier.
My son was having horrible diarrhea at about a year so instead of his poop sitting on his already sore bum i had him sit on the potty.
He's 14 months now and he'll go potty before a bath and before bed but I'm not forcing him. He knows what it's for and some days he'll show me he wants to and some days he won't. I figure we won't actively work it for another couple months.
"As long as you allow them to potty in their pampers they will"
My god, my kids must be miracle children then! I deserve some sort of award for having children who used the potty entirely on their own terms when they wanted to with no direction from me. I find it really sad people have such little faith in their children's innate nature.
I'm not fussed as long as they are going before they start school. My eldest 2 were trained around 3 and I have just started literally a few days ago with my youngest son ( he's 3) and he is getting the hang of it.. I put undies on him during the day and a nappy at night but usually the nappy is dry in the morning.. The last 2 days he's only had one accident! I started rewarding him every time he went but I have slowly stopped giving him stuff and he's been going on his own! I think that 3 is a good age to start..
I know what pp means about the bragging! My oldest son is honestly an angel, never had tantrums, isn't whiney, is friendly and polite and ppl tell me all the time how lovely he is and how I'm doing a great job. So, although I never bragged about it, I felt pretty pleased with myself. Then I had ds2 and wow, what a shock he was! The opposite of his brother. High strung, tantrummy, whiney, hits ppl who just try to say hello - guess I'm not the worlds greatest mum after all, just got lucky the 1st time around!
No problem! I'm off to bed, but I'll read it in the morning. Hopefully, I'll have some insight.
I'm a sahm. I work with my kid on it EVERY SINGLE DAY. I don't think its anyone's business to tell me what my kid should or shouldn't be doing. I've talked to his doctor and a child behavioralist...people with DEGREES on actual s*** , not just google...everyone has told me I can't force him to do anything. Wtf am I supposed to do? Beat his ass bc he won't s*** in the potty? Bull s*** . We live in an age where people are far too comfortable telling other mothers that theyre doing something wrong. He's well fed, he has clothes, a clean home, and hes loved. Who's business is it that my kid isn't potty trained yet?
If I see a 5 year old with a binky, I don't give a s*** . Not my kid.
If I see a kid acting out, I don't give a s*** . Not my kid.
If I'm having issues with potty training my kid and he's 3 and he's in diapers, don't worry about it. Not your kid.
Rubyslippers, thank you for that article!!! It was spot on! Awesome info!
I sent my 21 month old to daycare 3 days a week for the summer. He came home terrified of the potty because they would force him to use it at school. Had I left him there I'm sure they would have broken his spirit enough to make him do it every time. I pulled him out of that school. I prefer not to parent by intimidation and force. And I sure as heck don't want a daycare to treat children that way! I am very open minded. You are the one that can't seem to grasp that children have different abilities at different times. Yes you can start potty training at one, but you may not be done with it until 2! It's not about how much time you put into it, it's about when the child is ready to do it.
My doctor said not to push it. I pushed it and learned my lesson.
The turning point when I was like "she's not ready" was when she jumped off her potty mid poop, I chased her and before I knew it I went down into a dang near barbie split from stepping in her poo..
She is two in a couple months. I'll just wait a little longer.
I have learned through parenting you can not be closed minded when it comes to raising a baby I have learned alot just by opening up my mind im sorry the words lazy offended you however I do feel if you put in the time to train your child you will be able to that is simply what I meant the fact that it is so many people that think the way you guys do is a ld crazy to me... Now I agree with the person who said children are not mini adults I really do but I also feel they are smart enough to learn maybe not long division but potty training I believe so I have potty trained classes of children so im not pulling this out of my pockets its experience the parents that comes to me from what I can see just dont have the time because once I started with them its easy as long as I put in the time...
You never answered my earlier questions. Are your opinions based on any sort of research, experience, or education on child development? It would lend credibility to your claims that we are lazy "parents".
I don't see it as pushing them. I just feel like I know my sons potential and if at two he could tell me he was wet or poopy then at two he could start trying to potty, he was fully potty trained, including night time a few months after he turned two. This was with me working full time and just sticking with it. Every child is different and I understand that but my children will absolutely not be in diapers at 3. I took the diapers away and he became potty trained. It took maybe two weeks at the most and some pee and poop on the floor. I plan to do the exact same thing with my next son. If he doesn't have diapers to go in then he can't. I understand that everyone's parenting styles are different though :) as long as I'm not the one changing your kids diapers I couldn't careless how anyone else chooses to parent.
Would you preferred I said lil girl... Dont get it twisted im by no means trying to get childish with you I stated my opinion and I stand by it not only that the children I work with confirm it more you put in the time you get the result! So how bout you climb under a rock and when you finish if you actually listened to my opinion instead of just being offended you might actually get somewhere
Cry and scream until they are forced to potty like a "big girl"?
Treesa, I don't have much experience with autism, but I have a little with Aspergers. Not sure if I spelled that right. I don't know if this will work, but it's what I would suggest. I would set up a "potty station" in the bathroom. Leave changes of clothes, and a place for dirty clothes. Set up a chart and let him know it's all so he can do it himself. The only thing you need to do is help wipe but you can help with the rest if he wants you to. Put him in control of the process. Then tell him he gets a sticker every time he goes on the potty. When he gets 5 stickers he earns a prize. The next time make it 6 stickers, then 7,8,9... The prizes don't have to be extravagant. I stock up at dollar tree. It's all positive reinforcement, but nothing that's going to overstimulate. I hope this helps! Let me know what you think!
Actually, my child DOESN'T like going potty on herself. f*** dude. You make it sound like it's some kind of handicap. She brings me diapers to change her but she still doesn't understand her OWN body's queues to be able to make it to the potty on time or even really notice when she has to go.
I'm glad that the day your children started walking, they were out of diapers but some kids don't respond as easily.
As soon as they can walk they should be shown the "big girl/boy" way??????? My daughter walked at 9 months as did many other baby's whose mommys are on bb! There are also side effects of letting them scream until they are trained! Do I want my child to be afraid of the potty? Hizell NO!!!!! My child will learn on his/her own time when they are ready! Yours potty trained by 1 BRAVO more power to you! I sincerely congratulate you on that! But with us "lazy" parents how about you let us do our thing and you do yours! No need at all to put us down or call us lazy because our children aren't as quick to potty train as yours! Some kids walk faster pee faster eat faster talk faster it's all how the PARENTS choose to handle everything and for you to come on here and say we're lazy because our children are 2-3 not trained yet is uncalled for! And please save this post and come back in 5-6 years when/IF your child is behind in a certain area and another parent says it's because you're too lazy to teach them! Each child is unique and will do things as they are ready!!!!!
Where did you learn that they should potty train when they start walking?!? That is the most absurd thing I've ever heard in regards to potty training. Have you studied child development at all? Do you know the stages and milestones that children progress through as their brains are developing? I think a lot of people forget that children are not mini adults. Their brains are not capable of the complex thinking that ours are. Their brains and bodies are still learning to communicate with each other and make connections. Forcing them before they are physically and psychologically ready is damaging. I hear moms saying that they potty trained their children in "only 6 months". That is way too long to be going through the process. It would have been easier to just wait until the end of that time and train them in 2 weeks tops. Honestly, I just want moms to know that it's ok, and even beneficial, to wait until their child is ready.
Kids do learn at their on pace im sure they also know that if they cry and whine that they get to potty on themselves for as long as MOMMY allows im not saying anyone is bad or you should spank your children what im saying is because (or) as long as you allow them to potty in their pamper they will... Crying wont kill a child there is no harm done because a baby screams if your child can walk they should be potty trained thats what im saying you all are offended because of that and I dont know why I feel the same way about paci's and strollers (unless its occasion appropriate lol ) there is a certain age where its the parents responsibility to stop it and teach them the "big boy/girl" way... if you dont understand stand that then godspeed... My daughter has been potty trained since she was 1 she dont pee in the bed and so will my next baby... I understand mistakes happen however 3 and even four year olds in diapers (if nothing is wrong.. )... That sound right though?...oh my bad yeah!.. Hell kids starts school now at three... You pack diapers in their bookbag? Like am I missing something cause im seriously not trying to be rude or ridiculous but that sounds crazy to me, you saying they will do it at their on pace but when why dont you set a pace?
Well @south sorry that offended you because I was obviously calling you out specifically smfh (you killed it btw) thats my personal opinion I feel some parents dont have the time or just really cant focus there time on really potty training because they "work their asses off" that in no way is the childs fault so um year i feel its lazy parenting whether its on purpose or not a childs will learn what you teach them so if they dont its on you... I didnt mean it to be rude maybe ill dress it up next time to appease you...
Oh this is always a fun subject! People freak out about my answer ?.
My kids were 4.5 when they used the potty on their own terms when they wanted to. I tried the whole "traditional potty training" thing with my oldest when he had just turned 3 and it felt completely and totally wrong and icky. I knew without a doubt my kids wouldn't be in diapers in high school and *gasp* they aren't. Kids don't need to be forced to use the toilet in order for them to do it.
South side my 3 year old is the exact same way! He screams bloody murder if you so much as suggest going on the toilet. I tell him 'but big boys use the toilet, Jamie (his older brother) goes to the toilet!' And he just says 'I'm not a big boy, I'm a little boy' lol. He is so difficult all the time that its just another battle that isn't worth fighting just yet. I know my kid, and if I try to make him do something he doesn't want to do, he will make me regret it
The sensation to pee is a lot more subtle and takes longer to master. Honestly, I only changed 3 accidents total when my son was potty training. I have it down to a science! There's a difference between a parent being ready to potty train because they don't like diapers and a child showing all the signs of readiness to successfully train.
I need my mom to read this! My dd will go to the potty about 1/3 the time throughout the day but if you try to put her on a schedule where she goes every couple of hours, she'll literally sit on the floor & cry like she's terrified of the toilet. I'm expecting #2 in March & I'm having a hard time explaining to my mom that if she's not freaking ready then she's not ready & leave her alone! She's a little over 2 & has been doing a lot of pooping in the potty for months. We just have to get the peeing down.
We just started and my son is 19 months old. I'm not pushing him. He will bring me the diapers and wipes and tries to wipe himself and says ewwww when he sees a dirty diaper. So I figured we might as well see what he does on a potty. It's only been a couple days but he goes potty in the big potty every time I put him on it he still goes in his diaper and that's fine for now. He's excited about the potty and likes going on it. And that's a good enough start for me.
Elimination communication for the pp that asked.
As for laziness, I assure you that is usually not the case. Though it is correct that most parents didn't care about children's feelings back then. We know a lot more now about child development and the consequences of pushing children before they are ready. Like I've said many times, all children develop differently. I take personal offense to any of us hard working moms being calked lazy. I call it educated.
I agree yayacarrington.
I try to tell him that all kids are different, I even asked the pedi about right in front of him and his response was "don't force her, you'll regret it she will let you know when she's ready" he's been a pedi for 40+ years I think he knows what he's talking about. But dh still says she should be potty trained because so and so is potty trained and she's younger then dd.
As to pp that said laziness is a big factor agree and disagree. If your child is ready fine good for you. Just because yours was ready at a certain age doesn't mean other peoples are. I know a 17month old that's potty trained. That's fantastic for her. As to kids that are ready and their parents are too lazy then obvi that's laziness but just because a child isn't potty trained by 2 doesn't mean the parents lazy. All kids are different!
My daughter is 21 months and we recently bought her a potty chair.
Right now it's just sitting in our bedroom, (we haven't used it yet,) so that she can get used to it.
She'll sit on it on her own, and we just clap when she does, so she associates it with good things.
Our next step will be moving it into the bathroom, since she always follows me in there.
Sometimes I'll give her a little bit of toilet paper, and she'll copy me and wipe, then throw her toilet paper in the toilet and help me flush it.
Since I'm pregnant and pee practically every 20 min, I'll probably have her sit on her potty every time I go to use mine.
If she goes, we'll clap and say yay, and make using the potty a good thing. If she doesn't go, then she doesn't go and we'll just try again next time.
Is 2 early? I kinda wanted to start my honey bunny. I got training pants and when she peed on them, she started crying hysterically because she felt bad . So I stopped. Everytime she pees she comes to me for diaper change but only after she does it. I havent seen any other signs.so im waiting
I don't really see it as a push to train early, I see it as a step away from the push to let your child wear diapers until they're 4 years old for fear of wrecking their self-esteem.
Now if you're trying to potty train a 6 month old who can't even walk yet, I say good luck to you lol, but 15-18 months is not too early to introduce the potty.
I'm hoping to start here within the next 6 months.when dd is 18 months. If other cultures can potty train their Los early on why would it be different here in the states. I read an article about how in china I believe in the not so populated areas they don't even use diapers they to ec and the baby is potty trained by 3 months. This isn't the exact Article I read but same premise ссылка
Everything varies on the child. My dd was 95% trained at 3yo, but regressed when my ds was born. She didn't end up being fully trained until 4 yo. You cant pressure a child to be trained before they are ready. My ds is 2 1/2 and is taking to it fairly well, just a matter of his attention span. Now with #3 I am hoping that he will be trained by the time LO comes cuz diapers are expensive but wont push if hes not fully ready.
Most boys aren't fully trained until after 3 no matter how early you start. My preference is to wait until they are ready. I was pressured by my family, too. But because I have worked with, and potty trained, children for 18 years they knew better than to push too hard.
Southside.chick I read a blog or article about a couple parents who had similar issues with their boy. They finally broke down and bought a diaper that looked similar to the ones they used but in a much smaller size and told the boy that he grew out of all the diapers and then had a potty party basically let him eat and drink whatever and had him go on the potty. I wish I could remember exactly where I read it but maybe you could try something like that.
That's terrible Mrs.king. No child should be shamed for having accidents. Your husband needs to learn about child development. It's not a one size fits all kind of deal. I hope you continue to advocate for your daughter. I'm sure she's doing the best she can.
My ds will be 3 in December and I'm due in Jan. With number 2. I have been trying since he was 2 but it's not working nothing has helped rewards etc. But if I don't do or say anything about it sometimes he says he has to go potty. He's stubborn and I get a lot of s*it from family because he isn't potty trained yet. I don't think he's 100% ready yet but I'm not sure what else to do. Yes I would love to have him trained now but he's not. I think there is so much pressure on it maybe because people are starting out so soon and forcing them to do it that its viewed as wrong if they are not trained by 2 or so.
Its not at my house. With my 1st I tried so hard starting right before 2. Nothing worked. Then one day he just wanted to and no more diapers ever. He was 3. So with my twins I didn't try to train them just asked a lot and one day around 3 they were just ready so they only had them at night.
Idk I started trying to potty train at 2 and she's 2 1/2 and still won't go pee on the potty. She goes poop just fine though. My dh pressures me to be harder on her and pressures her telling her it's bad to go in her diaper I've tried to tell him he can't do that and he says violet is potty trained (his sisters baby who's 4 months older then our dd) but she was ready dd isn't! She's still learning to hold her pee and knowing when she had to go
I completely understand! My ds responds well to a challenge. If I bet him he can't do something, chances are he will have it done within minutes!!!
Yeah he seriously has no desire. He was crouched down in a corner one day and told me he was pooping in his diaper. I was like o.o I have done every single thing every website, book, friend, and duck hunter has told me to do and he's like "no, I don't want to." I apparently have the most bullheaded child in the world. And while I love that about him, I don't like changing s*** ty diapers on a three year old lol.
Introducing the potty should be a one time thing. Taking it out and putting it away leads to confusion and prolonged training time. Once you start it's best to jump in with both feet.
Because changing a 2-3 year olds diaper isn't something I want to do! I am pregnant with my first so my input really means nothing lol but I want to introduce the potty around 15 months or so, if she takes to it, great if not I'm not going to force her into it. Even if she only uses it once a day then that's great and we'll be super happy. But if she isn't ready then I'll understand that and we'll put the potty away for a while and try again later.
Southside, my own ds didn't train until he was 3 and 2 months. That was when he started hiding from me when he went potty in his diaper and when he started asking about it. We put the potty in the living room, decorated it with stickers and he was fully trained in 3 days. It can easily become a power struggle when they feel too much pressure. Even too much positive reinforcement can backfire. Try backing off and letting him take the lead. Maybe he'll come to it easier on his own. My niece was stubborn, too, and finally trained herself at 3 1/2. My sister had begun training her at 2!
It's ok southside! Most parents don't do a lot of research when it comes to potty training. It's a lot of guesswork which leads to months of accidents and frustration. I'm not talking about EC, which I don't have the patience for, but is amazing when done correctly. All children develop at different rates. Some are ready at 16 months, others not until 3 or 4. I think there's a lot of judgement that gets passed around when parents wait until their child is truly ready. I have been potty training children for 18 years. I've seen what happens to a child's self esteem and a parent's stress level when it's done too early. Like I said "too early" is a relative term as every child is ready at different times.
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