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I found this
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Both list laws for each state regarding seclusion, restraints (physical, mechanical, and chemical). It's pretty scary stuff.
The states that I personally found that had the best laws against school "discipline" were Colorado, Indianna, Maine, Oregon, Vermont, Wisconsin, and Georgia.
the states I listed above ban seclusion and restraints of any kind unless under emergency (child being seriously violent) and some of these states ban them all together with or without emergency. Read for yourselves though. Hope this helps!
I feel so bad for the kids with special needs.. this is horrible... all kids need constant positive discipline not to be thrown in a dark room. What ever happened to time outs and s*** ! Or getting sent to your own table on the other side of the room?? My dad is a third grade teacher and one time he says this kid was hitting other kids and throwing stuff and he tried to hit my dad and he grabbed his hands so he wouldn't hit him (as a natural reaction) and then the kids went home and said my dad twisted and broke his arm!! He got a warning only because the other kids who were hit said something and obviously his arm was fine and he didn't have any marks but still..
I'm not sure if ive ever heard of padded rooms in schools, but I know paddling is very common practice in Texas. For boys and girls. It always made me sick when one of my classmates got dragged to the hallway for a paddling. You could hear it clearly from any classroom up and down the hall. It still could make me cry thinking of it....and truly, I don't think it ever solved a single disciplinary problem. If I ever catch wind of this happening to my son, someone's head will roll.
I've been to many behavioral hospitals and clincs, and group homes, when I was a teenager and I've never even been subjected to stuff like this! And we were a bunch of crazies. They had an isolation room but it was pretty big and there was a bed in it if we wanted to lay down. We were able to go to the bathroom and everything.
The fact that a mental institution would treat children better than our own public schools is just awful and twisted.
@hippy you'd be surprised. I was in 12th grade and I was Ta in a special needs class. It was my last week there and for whatever reason I asked what the closet had in it. They showed me a padded room will a switch to magneticly lock the door. I was there for 18 weeks and never ever knew. I assumed it was a storage closet. I was mortified.
There is a school just outside my town for at risk kids. They allow all kinds of crazy stuff to go on. Kids are always running away and have even committed suicide. They have had many lawsuits against them for allowing institutionalized child abuse and the parents weren't made aware before sending kids there. It's pretty sick. I think they are about to close down. I'm in NY.
Edit: A good friend of mines family owns it. That's how I know stuff.
His teacher seems so nice though and she explained that she understands when they act out at first because they're not used to school and she even has a cube system which is like money to them and she gibes them cubes for good behavior and if they act out she takes cubes and at the end of the day they can choose to have free time if they have a certain amount of cubes.
Hmm looking back when we went to open house we were looking around and they have their own bathroom in the classroom and next to it there was another door with a window but it was covered with a poster. Dh idk why tried to open it but our son said not to because only the teacher was allowed in there... I assumed it was a supply closet or something and didn't think anything of it..... I think I'll ask him about it when he gets home... hrs also told me that there's a new kid who is always getting in trouble and gets sent to "room 8"...... hmm....
They may have laws that don't allow certain things....Arizona allows seclusion rooms.
Edit: Arizona just changed their law, now that I'm reading....so this school year we are in now, is the first year this has been implemented. They still have seclusion rooms, but "The new Arizona law prohibits schools from using confinement on children unless their parents specifically consent to that form of discipline"
So still allowed, if you consent (who would consent), and prior to this school year your child could be put in a seclusion room without your consent or knowledge.
This is really sad and scary! I was curious about my own state (WA) so I did some looking into exactly what they allow. It turns out that while they don't allow shock or anything of that nature, they are still allowed to lock them in a padded room without windows for any amount of time. So while the children are protected from the more physical things, they are still being mentally and emotionally damaged in other ways.
Apparently this is also true for many of the other "safe states." So these other states are better in many ways, but still no where near where we should be. Fortunately the law that allows this in my state is under serious review and the move to eliminate these types of rooms completely is being considered.
Our children need to be educated, but it sounds like the adults in charge of our children need the education in so many more ways!
Call them? Arizona has tons of schools that have seclusion rooms and the school doesn't have to tell you if they put your kid in it, the law allows them to do it without parental consent. Mesa district in Gilbert specifically doesn't have them though. My friends lives there and said all the teachers have to take a conscience discipline course.
Wtf ??? I live in Arizona!! My son just started kinder this year!! Goodness!! Is there any way to find out if your school has something like that?? Jesus... my kid had a few bumps in the first few weeks but he's been fine since he got his recess taken. And his teacher seems like a very nice lady...
States that have specific laws against it sweets
If any staff member at my daughters school ever did any of this to my child I would kill them. No questions asked. I don't ever put my hands on my children an no one else will either. Physical punishment does absolutely nothing but scare them. I can't believe this. It makes me sick.
That's heartbreaking for your son MS....hugs to both of you.
Let's just say if I ever found someone doing something like this to one of my kids my ass would be in jail. Especially if I was the mother whose child was restrained by the man who wouldn't let him go I'd get him out his arms one way or another.... I'm so angry for these kids and parents! I can't believe this is legal
Ahanz....if you watch the video the list is only like 20 seconds in. You can stop it after that and you'll miss the more disturbing things.
There is a video ahanz that gives a list...don't watch it if your sensitive. It made me want to throw up.
They do Shoogie...they list the 17 states that have laws protecting children (my state being one of them). It's perfectly legal and unregulated for them to do these things. A boy died from this "discipline" because he wouldn't stop shooting a basketball (also in the video).
I'm becoming a bigger fan of gentle parenting every day. And home school. Our culture is forming monsters with this type of treatment. Instead of acknowledging and working through emotions, let's shock you or throw you in a dark padded room to deal with your scary emotions all alone.
Dark ages, nice to see you again.
You remember the movie Matilda? Where they shoved the little girl into the utility closet or something? They really did that at my moms school...along with a whipping paddle. That was in the sixties though, I thought they had put some laws down on that. Did the article happen to list the states that is legal in?
It's basically about how it's legal for schools in all but 17 states to use extreme measures like for example electrocuting students with behavioral issues, sticking them into a padded cell for hours, stuffing them into duffle bags to restrict their movement, plus more.
Thanks @firstbaby!