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Thanks @firstbaby!

Honestly, I don't expect any different from the public school system. I'm hardly surprised. Something new every day. Messed up.

I found this

http://www.autcom.org/pdf/HowSafeSchoolhouse.pdf

and this

http://www.autcom.org/pdf/MyStateRestraintSeclusionLaws.pdf

Both list laws for each state regarding seclusion, restraints (physical, mechanical, and chemical). It's pretty scary stuff.

The states that I personally found that had the best laws against school "discipline" were Colorado, Indianna, Maine, Oregon, Vermont, Wisconsin, and Georgia.

the states I listed above ban seclusion and restraints of any kind unless under emergency (child being seriously violent) and some of these states ban them all together with or without emergency. Read for yourselves though. Hope this helps!

Oh, hell no! Makes me want to home school..

What is a good way to find out your states rules? I saw a few of you post what you had found out about your state, but I am not quite sure what to look for? The administrative code is rather tedious if there is an easier way...

I feel so bad for the kids with special needs.. this is horrible... all kids need constant positive discipline not to be thrown in a dark room. What ever happened to time outs and s*** ! Or getting sent to your own table on the other side of the room?? My dad is a third grade teacher and one time he says this kid was hitting other kids and throwing stuff and he tried to hit my dad and he grabbed his hands so he wouldn't hit him (as a natural reaction) and then the kids went home and said my dad twisted and broke his arm!! He got a warning only because the other kids who were hit said something and obviously his arm was fine and he didn't have any marks but still..

Thank God my state has laws against it. Holy heck.

I'm not sure if ive ever heard of padded rooms in schools, but I know paddling is very common practice in Texas. For boys and girls. It always made me sick when one of my classmates got dragged to the hallway for a paddling. You could hear it clearly from any classroom up and down the hall. It still could make me cry thinking of it....and truly, I don't think it ever solved a single disciplinary problem. If I ever catch wind of this happening to my son, someone's head will roll.

I'm scared for my baby when she gets into school now. My so had many problems when he was a kid. He went from institution to institution because his mom didn't know how to handle him. My baby could get those problems too. My state isn't protected. This is scary.

I've been to many behavioral hospitals and clincs, and group homes, when I was a teenager and I've never even been subjected to stuff like this! And we were a bunch of crazies. They had an isolation room but it was pretty big and there was a bed in it if we wanted to lay down. We were able to go to the bathroom and everything.

The fact that a mental institution would treat children better than our own public schools is just awful and twisted.

Another reason I plan on homeschooling.

Is that list shoogie posted states that have laws protecting children or where "discipline" like this is legal?

I live in NC. I just watched the video and I am disgusted! How is this legal! That is abuse, no questions about it.

What seriously the f*ck is wrong with people?!? Hitting a child that hit you isn't going to make them not want to hit back, so instead let's electrocute them?!?! Because they are autistic?!!? This makes me entirely too angry and extremely happy I live in canada...

@hippy you'd be surprised. I was in 12th grade and I was Ta in a special needs class. It was my last week there and for whatever reason I asked what the closet had in it. They showed me a padded room will a switch to magneticly lock the door. I was there for 18 weeks and never ever knew. I assumed it was a storage closet. I was mortified.

I'm bothered.. Another reason why I'll be homeschooling!!

There is a school just outside my town for at risk kids. They allow all kinds of crazy stuff to go on. Kids are always running away and have even committed suicide. They have had many lawsuits against them for allowing institutionalized child abuse and the parents weren't made aware before sending kids there. It's pretty sick. I think they are about to close down. I'm in NY.

Edit: A good friend of mines family owns it. That's how I know stuff.

I'm sorry but as a parent how do you send your kid to a school and have no idea about this stuff? I'm pretty sure id notice a big padded closet in my kid's class room or marks on my kid. wake up people. investigate. tour your children's schools ASK TOUGH QUESTIONS.

But I'm very curious about this room 8 now....

His teacher seems so nice though and she explained that she understands when they act out at first because they're not used to school and she even has a cube system which is like money to them and she gibes them cubes for good behavior and if they act out she takes cubes and at the end of the day they can choose to have free time if they have a certain amount of cubes.

Ok well as far as I know I haven't gotten anything regarding that.... we did just get this packet about student rights and responsibilities which I have yet to read... I'll be reading that asap.

Hmm looking back when we went to open house we were looking around and they have their own bathroom in the classroom and next to it there was another door with a window but it was covered with a poster. Dh idk why tried to open it but our son said not to because only the teacher was allowed in there... I assumed it was a supply closet or something and didn't think anything of it..... I think I'll ask him about it when he gets home... hrs also told me that there's a new kid who is always getting in trouble and gets sent to "room 8"...... hmm....

They may have laws that don't allow certain things....Arizona allows seclusion rooms.

Edit: Arizona just changed their law, now that I'm reading....so this school year we are in now, is the first year this has been implemented. They still have seclusion rooms, but "The new Arizona law prohibits schools from using confinement on children unless their parents specifically consent to that form of discipline"

So still allowed, if you consent (who would consent), and prior to this school year your child could be put in a seclusion room without your consent or knowledge.

Wait so the states shoogie listed are against this??

This is really sad and scary! I was curious about my own state (WA) so I did some looking into exactly what they allow. It turns out that while they don't allow shock or anything of that nature, they are still allowed to lock them in a padded room without windows for any amount of time. So while the children are protected from the more physical things, they are still being mentally and emotionally damaged in other ways.

Apparently this is also true for many of the other "safe states." So these other states are better in many ways, but still no where near where we should be. Fortunately the law that allows this in my state is under serious review and the move to eliminate these types of rooms completely is being considered.

Our children need to be educated, but it sounds like the adults in charge of our children need the education in so many more ways!

Call them? Arizona has tons of schools that have seclusion rooms and the school doesn't have to tell you if they put your kid in it, the law allows them to do it without parental consent. Mesa district in Gilbert specifically doesn't have them though. My friends lives there and said all the teachers have to take a conscience discipline course.

Wtf ??? I live in Arizona!! My son just started kinder this year!! Goodness!! Is there any way to find out if your school has something like that?? Jesus... my kid had a few bumps in the first few weeks but he's been fine since he got his recess taken. And his teacher seems like a very nice lady...

Oh, good. My states on the list.

States that have specific laws against it sweets

Are the states on the list states that allow this?

This is beyond horrifying.

If any staff member at my daughters school ever did any of this to my child I would kill them. No questions asked. I don't ever put my hands on my children an no one else will either. Physical punishment does absolutely nothing but scare them. I can't believe this. It makes me sick.

I remember seeing a news story a few years ago about a school that was using a little padded cell

Do you have your ringer off TK?

I can see the video but I can't hear it. I couldn't understand what was happening. But it did list my state as one of the 17 states.

No words can describe how terrible this is. Sometimes I feel that there's no hope for humanity.

I don't know if this has already been mentioned, but this happened a couple of times in OR last year... Kiddos stuck in padded rooms that their parents didn't even know existed at school, without parental consent.

My 2 boys have autism. If this ever happened to them, I'll be in jail. So will daddy.

That's heartbreaking for your son MS....hugs to both of you.

That's so disturbing!

Pennsylvania it's legal too. Luckily in Bethlehem a school uses the technics someone explained in this post. If I ever have a autistic or special needs child I'm moving there.

This is legal in my state and I am ashamed. Its also very surprising, seeing as to how my state is all about protecting children. It was something I was very proud to say about Texas. Not so much anymore...

Let's just say if I ever found someone doing something like this to one of my kids my ass would be in jail. Especially if I was the mother whose child was restrained by the man who wouldn't let him go I'd get him out his arms one way or another.... I'm so angry for these kids and parents! I can't believe this is legal

My senior year in high school I was tackled and tazed by a officer because a girl attacked me and I whooped her @ss lol she said she was having a bad day when I accidentally tripped her lmbo

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Are you fu**ing kidding me? This is disgusting. I bet those teachers get a kick out of punishing these kids. Awful.

My third grade teacher used to hit you on the head with chalk erasers and even stuff you in the trash can for misbehaving. Everyone thought it was hilarious though, except me.

Arizona

Idaho

Indiana

Georgia

Florida

Arkansas

Colorado

New Mexico

North Carolina

South Carolina

Tennessee

Texas

Wyoming

All legal

Ahanz....if you watch the video the list is only like 20 seconds in. You can stop it after that and you'll miss the more disturbing things.

Alabama

Louisiana

Kentucky

Ohio

Kansas

Mississippi

Missouri

Are the few I remembered from glancing. My state is on the list. :-/ idk how I feel about that.

I'm going to see if my state is on the list.

How the h*ll is any of that legal?!? That is just sick.

Edit: saw the video. that poor mom! her son died from that and its supposed to be therapeutic....my a**!!!

The chokey... There was a small door with a lock on it in the middle of the hall at my daughters school and I asked her if it was the chokey like matildas school she said Yup. She's 4 and just agreed but that's crazy to think about.

There is a video ahanz that gives a list...don't watch it if your sensitive. It made me want to throw up.

They do Shoogie...they list the 17 states that have laws protecting children (my state being one of them). It's perfectly legal and unregulated for them to do these things. A boy died from this "discipline" because he wouldn't stop shooting a basketball (also in the video).

I'm becoming a bigger fan of gentle parenting every day. And home school. Our culture is forming monsters with this type of treatment. Instead of acknowledging and working through emotions, let's shock you or throw you in a dark padded room to deal with your scary emotions all alone.

Dark ages, nice to see you again.

You remember the movie Matilda? Where they shoved the little girl into the utility closet or something? They really did that at my moms school...along with a whipping paddle. That was in the sixties though, I thought they had put some laws down on that. Did the article happen to list the states that is legal in?

There was a news segment a while ago about an elementary school down the street from where we live refusing to show their padded room. Later they found blood all over the walls.

So sick and wrong.

It's basically about how it's legal for schools in all but 17 states to use extreme measures like for example electrocuting students with behavioral issues, sticking them into a padded cell for hours, stuffing them into duffle bags to restrict their movement, plus more.

Yeah, it says it's unavailable.

Care to explain what the article is about? I can't click the link. I'm interested.