NOT STARTING A DEBATE OR ARGUMENT just making that clear right from the jump!!!! But has anyone actually read the package insert of the vaccines? Like for example Pediarix Vaccine page 14 of the insert it states that the Non clinical toxicology states that is has not been evaluated for carcinogenic or mutagenic potential, or for impairment of fertility.
This is straight from the Package Inserts and Manufactures for some US Licensed Vaccines and Immunoglobulins at the Johns Hopkins University.
Got there for yourself and read all 19 pages of every vaccine and read what's in them, and what the CDC is saying in these. go to www.vaccinesafety.edu/package_inserts.htm
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@babyanakin read this, and the links. This is why I chose not to.
I had chicken pox and shingles when I was little. I haven't had a vaccine in 19 yrs and haven't been sick but twice @hermommy but hope it helps you in one way or another ☺
makes perfect sense:) i will definitely read up on it bc there are some that I'm really just not sure about I know I thank my mom everyday for the chicken pox vaccine but that's the only one lol
makes perfect sense:) i will definitely read up on it bc there are some that I'm really just not sure about I know I thank my mom everyday for the chicken pox vaccine but that's the only one lol
Everything I shared on here is straight from Johns Hopkins University. They're unbiased, don't make money on "swaying" one way or another. Hope it helps again not saying not to vaccinate (I won't ever) but after reading and you still choose to or only some that's fine, but atleast you've read up on it ya know @hermommy if that makes sense lol
I've been looking my for info about vaccines :D thanks I'll read up on it, so far I'm only against the flu shot bc I get it everytime-,-
@hermommy I'm big on research. Just wanted to tag you so you can read this post and comments and click the links. not pushing anything but just sharing some research.
and read some of the links that were posted @jdrose the article the queendavis shared is a good article. and the link I shared will bring you to the package inserts for every vaccine
I just wanted to add compared to other major countries American have a far greater number of shots then other countries require.
@mrs.cravens, see I only had 1 nurse practitioner at their office give me problems, the other 2 haven't even brought up vaccines that's why I like that office. but like you said "I'm the parent, and that's my decision" that's a good answer!
I agree with you 100 percent I told my daughters doctor the same thing and she looked at me like I was crazy. lol I told her she's not her mother and I make the decision. but I agree
@mrs.cravens, exactly it's all about money, and I'm sorry to hear about your sister that breaks my heart to hear
the doc told me my kids are gonna die cuz they didn't @mrs.cravens but we can also die from car accidents to, I can die from an untreated uti. but I bet when I bring that form to their next appointment she won't sign it. I mean if you choose to vaccinate your kids that's your choice, but choosing not to isn't wrong either. ppl worry about being around unvaccinated kids, but 2 things. 1st if your vaccines work so well why worry? 2nd some vaccines have the live disease itself in them and can be given to others. so even if you do vaccinate but your child is around someone who had just got theirs and your child hasn't yet, your child can get sick from the vaccinated child. again I just wanted people to really really read for themselves about these vaccines, what John Hopkins University has to say, they're like the top medical school and this is their website
and your right my sister was perfectly healthy talking and everything she got the mmr shot and she stopped learning its so sad she was diagnosed with autism. doctors will argue with you and say its not the shots but its all for money
I only get my daughter one shot at a time. I will not be getting her the flu shot. I am so against getting my daughter what is it 5 shots at a time. the doctors argue with me every time it pisses me off.
Also @mltober like @queendavis said if they are so safe how come your child's doctor won't sign something that states that they can guarantee you that nothing will happen if your child gets vaccines? like if they're so safe why won't a doctor sign agreeing that they're safe? I'm just asking that people read before they act, that's all. not trying to force my opinions on ppl, just show them facts not fiction
@mltober, yeah but I have seen first hand a child who was perfectly healthy, he got his MMR shot and now still wears diapers and has cognitive disabilities now and he is 17 yrs old. It's heart breaking. My own brother has also had a problem thankfully not that bad from the MMR vaccine. I'm just asking parents to read what the CDC is saying and what they are actually putting in their perfect lil baby. If you read it and still choose to by all means that's your decision.
@gypsy.soul2 yeah I have been thinking of home schooling only because the educational system is going down hill as well....
Just adding this though- "One child dies every 20 seconds from a disease that could be prevented from with a vaccine. Why? Because one in five children lack access to the life-saving immunizations that keep children healthy." ссылка or this one "It’s heartbreaking to tell a family that their child has died or is suffering from a disease that a vaccine could have prevented. Children continue to die from vaccine-preventable diseases. We can stop that" ссылка
my daughter has every vaccine except the mmr, flu, and varicella.. we did it bc when she was born my MIL was living with us and has no immune system and was always ALWAYS sick.. however, we have no interest or are we in a rush to get them done. we don't do the flu vax. CDC & pharmaceutical companies make a lot of money off of the vax and make a lot of money off sick kids.. Cancer being a huge money maker as well.. so they see our children as dollar signs and sheep aka herd immunity.
I plan on homeschooling.. I hate the education system and I don't believe it's geared toward the best future of my kids.. I think they're geared toward making ranks and colleges numbers rise to make national and worldwide standings. that's just our take on it.. we may, however, do kindergarten & prek for her so she does thrive with kids her age but once she hits 1st is probably when we will pull her. @twinmamma2015
please further educate me because I'm so blown right now by all of this....like I wanna know what's being put into my baby but I don't wanna be an overbearing psycho either lol @queendavis
Well @supermom1104 when when you and myself got vaccines times were different, not as many etc.... Now a days there is so much more in them, acetone, embalming fluid, mercury and so much more stuff. I just want people to read these and inform themselves. It lists the ingredients that are in every vaccine. Just read, ask questions, look up things that you may not understand, that's all anyone can do and just make your own decisions on what vaccines you want your daughter to have, if you choose any at all.... Do not feel pressured or bullied into them if you choose not to. like @queendavis have them sign that form and if they push them on you if you choose not to vaccinate. Just educate yourself as much as you can.
@supermom1104, you have to think tho, you're what anywhere from 19-27 years old most likely? Back then, there were so many less vaccines! Now by the time a child reaches adulthood there's more than 70 vaccines. I too have all my vaccines, except for the flu shot which I refuse to get, but anyways it's so much different for kids nowadays and vaccines have such worse ingredients now! It gets really confusing and overwhelming when it comes to vaccinating or not vaccinating, and there's tons of points from every view. You honestly just have to do research and see what's best for you and your baby! There are also homeopathic alternatives for vaccinations which I do give to my children. If you want I can message you some links to good articles that can further educate you on the topic.
@twinmamma2015, can u paste that link in your post in the cmnts please
omggg my daughter just got her vaccines and now I'm reading all this, I worried about them from the beginning and now I'm a little curious about them I mean I've had all my shots ? I'm so confused by all this knowledge @queendavis @twinmamma2015
every vaccine that my dad got, he got the disease. He had mumps vaccine got mumps, got measles also....
nope sure don't @elenasmommy the schools may try and force you but you DO NOT have to vaccinate to go to school except for some states like NY and I believe CA. But I also not trying to get all religious on anyone but I do believe in God and I do not believe he makes mistakes. He has a reason for everything. Good and Bad.
@elenasmommy, I do not plan on homeschooling my kids. They can go to public or private school, vaccines cannot be legally forced upon anyone. All states offer vaccine exemptions for public and private schooling. Non-medical and religious exemptions are available in all states, and philosophical/personal belief exemptions are available as well. So if you've got your personal reasons, then that's all you need to make them exempt from vaccines when it comes to schooling. 😊
JUst out of curiosity are y'all planning on home schooling ? Like how does that work don't you have to homeschool if you don't vaccinate?
You're welcome! And yeah I saw they added more, I think it's ridiculous! Back when my parents were kids there were anywhere from 5-20 vaccines that were given by adulthood. But over 70????! My god!!!!
Exactly girl. Glad someone is on the same page as me! My advice to you, if you choose to not vaccinate the twins do NOT sign the refusal to vaccinate form that the pediatrician will want you to sign, in many cases it's been known to get children taken away from their parents because fucked up society and the system sees you as a danger to your children if you don't vaccinate them. You don't have to sign anything when you choose to not vaccinate them, your word is all you need. It's a form designed to stand up in court and is essentially a confession to neglect, there's many other reasons why people shouldn't sign the form as well. Here's a link about it. ссылка
also they just added 2 or 3 more vaccines to the list so that makes 71 or 72 vaccines by the age 13 to 16! Holy cow!
that is a powerful article @queendavis thank you for sharing
exactly @queendavis I totally agree and I've worked with Doctors who won't vaccinate their own kids. and if vaccines are so safe why is there a vaccine injury compensation fund in place? which also shields vaccine company's from any liability, that was a law passed in 1986. how crazy is that! I mean I just wish ppl would read about it. Like you worry about what you put in your body while prego, read what your putting in them after they're here.
Here's the article and said form if anyone is interested in reading it. It really opened my eyes. ссылка
read the MMR 2 vaccine page 5, says Excretion of small amounts of the live attenuated rubella virus from the nose or throat has occurred in the majority of susceptible individuals 7 to 28 days after vaccination.
I have read the packages, which is why I don't vaccinate my children except for the whooping cough vaccine. I had a form I showed to my child's pediatrician and I asked her to sign it, it basically said she was aware of said ingredients being in vaccines and she can assure me that it is safe for these ingredients to be injected into my children- she wouldn't sign it. That's when I chose to not vaccinate them. If their pedi won't even say this stuff is safe, why the hell would I give it to them? Another thing that irked me was when my son was having some medical issues and his pedi said to me, "let's do a CT scan on his brain because that last vaccine he got can cause major brain swelling" THAT was the FINAL straw for my kids and vaccines! No thank you. I'd rather not have monkey brains and pig blood injected into my kids 🙅🏻 and those aren't even the worst ones.
we are all adults here, all soon to be mom's or mommies already, just read for yourself what is in there. It is what comes in the vaccine package itself. Nothing anyone has altered or twisted
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