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I’m not quite sure how active this place is bc it’s been awhile since I’ve used this app but I need…

I’m not quite sure how active this place is bc it’s been awhile since I’ve used this app but I need advice & bb is gone. I’m thinking about quitting my job. I’m a teacher, but the first 3 months staying home with my newborn was the healthiest and least stressed that I’ve been since high school. My son is almost 5 months old and I went back to work Feb. 14th. Is it worth staying home or should I keep working? My SO makes in one week what I make in a month. But I do feel like I’ll be burdening him with my bills if I quit. What do you all think I should do?

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latinspice

LatinSpice

I think you should speak with your SO. If he is fine with it then do it. You sound like you need a mental break from what your life was. Sometimes huge life changes makes us reevaluate whether or not what we are doing truly makes us happy.

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ek_

The EK 💁🏼‍♀️

I understand this post on so many levels. Teaching is so incredibly stressful & I feel like it’s slowly sucking the life out of me. 😅However, since having my son my attitude towards work is very different. As you know, teaching can consume every minute of your life. I’ve done a much better job getting a healthy work-life balance since having my son and I’m far happier because of it. Only you & your husband can decide if staying home is right for your family, but finding a better balance may take some of the stress off your shoulders.

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mychemicalshaymance

Shay

I think you should talk to your husband and see what his opinion is and go from there. Follow your heart.

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latinspice

LatinSpice

I think you should speak with your SO. If he is fine with it then do it. You sound like you need a mental break from what your life was. Sometimes huge life changes makes us reevaluate whether or not what we are doing truly makes us happy.

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motherofwildlings

motherofwildlings

Мама двоих (младенец)

Can you survive on 1 income? What is the cost of childcare vs what you're bringing in? Talk to him about it. He might not feel like it would be a burden at all. I think if it's financially viable and you are both on the same page, why not? I'd do it if I could. Go for it!

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ek_

The EK 💁🏼‍♀️

I understand this post on so many levels. Teaching is so incredibly stressful & I feel like it’s slowly sucking the life out of me. 😅However, since having my son my attitude towards work is very different. As you know, teaching can consume every minute of your life. I’ve done a much better job getting a healthy work-life balance since having my son and I’m far happier because of it. Only you & your husband can decide if staying home is right for your family, but finding a better balance may take some of the stress off your shoulders.

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whoswhoo

Nancy

Thanks ladies. Of course he’s all for me staying home. But I know his goal is to start his own business and I can’t help but feel as if I’ll be straining him if I did quit completely. My older son goes to the school I teach at and it’s my childhood school so I have a special connection to it. We live in a different school area so more than likely he’d have to change schools. Right now I’m making just enough for my bills and child care. $900 every two weeks lol.

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ek_

The EK 💁🏼‍♀️

How long have you been teaching? $900 every two weeks?! 😖

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whoswhoo

Nancy

What school-work balance did you find? I put my foot down and I told them I will not work more than 7:30-3:30. We fought for breaks this year so I finally get two 30 min breaks a week. I have two domains due, which is similar to dossiers, needing to prove I’m an exemplary or highly effective teacher. They are so time consuming and stressful and I refuse to work until midnight to get them done. I’ve told them this, but I’m the type that is given assignments and I will perfect them and have them done on time. This year I’ve said no, but I feel so stressed about them still and like I’m carrying 500 lbs on my shoulder.

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whoswhoo

Nancy

@ek_, honestly, it’s uploading the artifacts and putting it together with the expected jargon that’s required. It’s so time consuming. I do it digitally but I’d imagine printing and putting it all together would be just as time consuming.

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ek_

The EK 💁🏼‍♀️

Ahh gotcha. We have to upload our artifacts into a digital teacher evaluation program too, but luckily we don’t have to provide a written narrative. We have evaluation conferences with our admin where we can talk about our artifacts in person.

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whoswhoo

Nancy

I think that would save so much time and energy.

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whoswhoo

Nancy

@ek_, ugh your comments aren’t posting for me to read the whole thing. I’m a level 2 teacher, exemplary in NM. Since I took some time off I had to stop my contract bc they didn’t give me maternity pay. They took off $200 every two weeks. I was making $1100 every two weeks. This is after taxes.

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whoswhoo

Nancy

So each domain stands for something. There’s 5-6 sections in each one and we have to give 4-5 examples on how we meet exemplary or highly effective. For ex, one is proving how I am exemplary in curriculum and meeting all WIDA and IEP needs. So I have to prove 5 different ways of how I met this one strand. I put it all together in a notebook and turn it in to principal. This is not required by all schools here, so it’s just extra bs work in my opinion, for the same pay as other teachers

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ek_

The EK 💁🏼‍♀️

Wow. That sounds like a ton of work. Is it based on Danielson’s framework? That’s what our evaluation is based on & we have to provide artifacts too, but not 4-5 for EACH part of each domain. That’s crazy.

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ek_

The EK 💁🏼‍♀️

By the way, wouldn’t it be nice if people who have already proven themselves to be exemplary could be treated as professionals and not have to prove year after year that we’re good at our job?

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whoswhoo

Nancy

It’s similar to danielsons framework but on steroids. There’s bullets that you must meet to be exemplary. Like I have to be on a district committee to even be able to get on exemplary. I wrote our 2nd grade curriculum for math and ELA so I automatically was able to be exemplary but still had to “prove it”. I know I wish I had 30 min prep times daily. I’m just so stressed and shouldn’t be since im on spring break lol

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ek_

The EK 💁🏼‍♀️

Still had to prove it? 🙄 Oh come on. That’s bullshit. Do your kids not have specials daily? What do you have to do while they’re at pe or music?

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whoswhoo

Nancy

We are forced to provide intervention during those times. So we have PE set daily and half our kids go to PE while we meet with the other two groups for 15 mins providing intervention activities. During my music and library we have common planning Time w the other two second grade teachers.

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ek_

The EK 💁🏼‍♀️

Do you not have an interventionist on staff? Or do they only do the tier 3s while classroom teachers do tier 2s? That’s crazy that you don’t have a daily prep. I’ve never worked in a district that didn’t have that. It had always been written in to our negotiated agreement.

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whoswhoo

Nancy

I know it’s insane. I think it’s more of our school not having it to be honest. I’ve asked around & other teachers get it, which really is disheartening bc we are paid the same lol. We are expected to do our daily intervention in tier 1, you know, making sure all students are engaged, having visuals and manipulatives, teaching two all styles whole group. Our tier 2 students are the smaller group ones, where as we are intervening in areas they are struggling in. Our high students are given activities that should enhance them and our middle students are working on areas needed strengthening. So really I should have 7 lesson plans per day.

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whoswhoo

Nancy

@ek_, wow! I would love to have a schedule like that. I am still unsure whether I should quit or wait it out. I dread dropping him off with the sitter tomorrow. This sitter costs $40 a day, so if I used her full time I’d be giving away half my earnings and still missing my baby. I’m going to pray and really try to think it all through. 8 more weeks of school left until summer.

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ek_

The EK 💁🏼‍♀️

The differentiated block is great because my numbers are lower! But the other 6.5 hours of the day I have all 28. With the move towards personalized learning I feel like I’m running on empty with that many students in my room & two different grade levels. 😅

I hope you’ll find a solution that makes you happiest. You can always go back to teaching in a few years and maybe in a school that has a more realistic work load!

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whoswhoo

Nancy

I told the principal my thinking earlier. She’s willing to hire a sub while I get the work domains done so I can get them done during school hours. She’s currently teaching my students while I pump lol

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whoswhoo

Nancy

4 for ELA interventions, 1 for math, 1 for ELA, 1 for phonics. Oh and now they want us to add Math interventions which is another 4.

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whoswhoo

Nancy

We have no interventionists in our district at all. We do have our special ed teacher for IEPs, OT and bilingual, but we still have to intervene in class.

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whoswhoo

Nancy

Omg not being able to read your whole response is driving me nuts! Our agreement is basically our salary and that’s all. We have a district handbook about what’s expected from us. Not really anything saying what’s required to be given to us.

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whoswhoo

Nancy

We are an “A” school, but we are suffering. Teacher morale is at an all time low. We have about 6-7 teachers leaving this year...

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ek_

The EK 💁🏼‍♀️

If they keep driving their teachers away they won’t be an A school for long. So is this all the administration at your site putting all this extra work on the teachers??

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whoswhoo

Nancy

We don’t have a union. We have the NEA but I won’t pay for it lol

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whoswhoo

Nancy

This is how I’m reading your responses. From notifications:

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whoswhoo

Nancy

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ek_

The EK 💁🏼‍♀️

If you go back to your original post can you see my comments?

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whoswhoo

Nancy

Yes, the principal. We’ve always been held to higher standards, which I’m all for. But being overworked is crazy.

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whoswhoo

Nancy

No, I even tried restarting my phone lol

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whoswhoo

Nancy

It looks like I’m having a one ended convo on my end

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ek_

The EK 💁🏼‍♀️

That’s so weird! I can see your comments just fine. Why won’t your district hire interventionists? They can’t reasonably expect a classroom teacher to provide tier 3 interventions, that’s impossible.

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ek_

The EK 💁🏼‍♀️

I already know the answer to that question will be money... but wow. I can’t believe they’re expecting regular classroom teachers to do all that. Even when we’re exemplary, we’re not miracle workers!

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whoswhoo

Nancy

Girl, I know it!!! I think our district has our tiers all messed up too lol. I have one student who should be level D. I do all I can to ensure she feels comfortable and is being taught, but truly she can’t be. I’ve had students with severe mental issues and had been hospitalized for them, but was told I had to teach them and there was no way I could have them sent to a “behavior classroom”. I almost quit that year too lol

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whoswhoo

Nancy

I updated the app and it works now.

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ek_

The EK 💁🏼‍♀️

Sorry to totally hijack your post. It’s interesting to hear how things are done in other buildings and states. I don’t come across too many other teachers on here.

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whoswhoo

Nancy

I know. It really is interesting talking to other teachers. What grade do you teach? We were nationally recognized this year, but for data from 2 years ago lol. So a lot of our teachers were gone and we had a different principal then. I was on maternity leave during all the celebrations. You’d think the new principal would’ve called me in to celebrate, but nope, she was giving credit to all the new teachers that didn’t earn the award lol

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ek_

The EK 💁🏼‍♀️

I teach 5th/6th multiage. It sounds like you have a lot of pressure to perform well given your history. What’s your student population like?

I can’t believe the new principal gave credit to the new teachers and not a word to someone who helped make it happen!

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whoswhoo

Nancy

yeah, I walked into the school for an assembly and she had the “oh shit” look after I said I noticed they’ve been celebrating a lot (governor had stopped by to congratulate that day). I have 5 kids who typically perform very well, not gifted but not really needing any support, about 10 avg kids who need support, but mostly bc our resources are really challenging, and 5 kids who need extra extra extra support. We do rotations for ELA, the small group interventions, and rotations for math.

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thekingsdaughter

Thekingsdaughter

I’d pray and talk to my hubby. I have worked as a mom and been a Sahm both and I can tell you what moved me to stay home is the fact that they are only little once and I didn’t want to babysitter or daycare seein their first steps, their first smile, their first word, I didn’t want a child care provider taking care of my babies boo-boos when they would fall and scrape their knee. These people no matter how professional will never equal a mothers love and constant presence. I also found that when I worked and had children one always had to be the priority and more often than not I had to feel like I was pushing a child aside to get ready for work or to run out the door for work I was tired from work so I didn’t feel like being the best mom I could be. I’ve said all of this and I’m also going to say that I understand mothers who have to work because they are either single or they don’t have a dependable significant other or whatever the case might be. But you need to do what’s best for you and your child even if that means prioritizing your finances in a way where you can sacrifice some material things or luxuries to stay home if that’s what you want to do it.

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ek_

The EK 💁🏼‍♀️

@scruffy.nerf.herder, Agree 100%. I work because I do important work. I value what I do & the difference I make. My husband is more than dependable. I like knowing that if anything were to happen to my husband that *I* can continue to provide my son with the same lifestyle that we’re accustomed to. That comment rubbed me the wrong way earlier too. That’s like me saying that women who stay home have a limited skill set and are content with someone else bringing in the income because they can’t contribute themselves.

Oh, and for the record: I saw my son’s first smile, first steps, & heard his first word. 🙃

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scruffy.nerf.herder

Heather

Мама сына (7 лет)

we’re usually on the same wavelength about things 😘

I completely agree with this! I work because what I do is very valuable for the good of society, and I work because it’s good to have self-sufficiency in case the unthinkable were to happen.

And my son, as an only child, has certainly benefitted from having exposure to different caregivers and his peers in daycare.

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thekingsdaughter

Thekingsdaughter

@whoswhoo, I totally get it. I hope u get some peace about it soon momma 💕💕💕 sending lots of love

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scruffy.nerf.herder

Heather

Мама сына (7 лет)

@ek_, and @whoswhoo, this has been a fascinating peek into the life of an educator! I appreciate you guys! I was a clinical mental health therapist with children/families for years before now being a supervisor, so I know the struggle of doing a job you feel passion for, but are not financially rewarded for doing 😬

My advice is similar to ek’s, in that I would give it some time to find your rhythm as a working mom, and you may find you develop a firmer work-life balance. Before kids, I frequently did paperwork from home, but since having a child, it became a necessity to stop doing this, so I could devote home hours to my own child’s needs. The job will still have its own stress and demands, but you might find yourself handling this differently, as your perspective changes after kids.

I will say that my 3 month maternity leave was also the least stressed and physically/emotionally healthiest I have been, just as you experienced! Wish I could have extended that just a bit!

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whoswhoo

Nancy

I was up super late just thinking about unfinished work. I woke up feeling much better. I don’t bring anything home. I refuse to. But the tone of voice the principal uses with us and lying to my face was really disgusting imo. Don’t lie to us about the extra work we are given when I have teacher friends that get a daily prep and do not have any of the extra work we are forced to do. At this point, I think I’ll be docked 10 pts from my teacher evaluation so I doubt I’ll be able to rank anything as high as I’m used to. Which really is disheartening too. I kinda just want to stay home and find a few kids of the same age I can teach. Im an early childhood educator and it would be a dream to teach 3-4 kids everyday vs 20.

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