Don't want to jump in on this But I have to say I loathe when someone equates getting married without the big fancy wedding to simply getting a "piece of paper". I do not plan on having a big wedding, my fiancé and I are eloping because we feel for us as a couple it would make it more special. Whether you have the big wedding, a small wedding, elope, or simply walk into a courthouse to be married- it should never be equated with just getting a piece of paper! @knc I hope you realize getting married and marriage as a whole is so much more than that. That fact that you're comparing being engaged to being married tells me otherwise though...
Sorry ladies I did not look into the facts of this case at all. I heard about it through fb which I think is where I found the meme. To those I offended I apologize. I'm not going to dd this though. Bb never forgets.
Holy cow, this went a little...crazy.
I by no means meant anything offensive towards you or your church. I was just completely confused as I've never heard of a church doing anything like that. I don't remember anything being done at mine when I got engaged , but all churches are different.
I don't think all of the pps were being rude in their questions either. Nobody had heard of it, so what better way to understand than to ask.
I understand pp has been rude before and made a rude comment on this thread, but I feel like a bunch of adult women ganging up on her via the Internet makes you just as bad...just read her bull crap comments and move on, it's sad when people get bullied on an app invented for women to come together and help each other.
Okay, so I'm genuinely curious. So you guys held a ceremony at your church, to promise to eventually commit to each other for life. But the ceremony somehow makes it okay in their eyes for you to move in together unmarried, be intimate sexually unmarried, and have a child unmarried. So...what is a promise to eventually commit? I couldn't be with someone who wanted those things with me, but wasn't willing to marry me. Going to school shouldn't change anything, I don't understand that either. What are they celebrating, the baby, or your choice to not commit?
Edit; I just saw you said they don't support sex outside of marriage. Yet another curiosity of mine, how could they call it two becoming one if there is no marriage?
The forgiving thing is confusing to y'all because you don't believe in God. When you fully research a religion and read the religious text, it starts to make sense.
If your child does wrong, you punish them right? But you still love and forgive them, right? Something like that but deeper.
Eta: lol @ how this post just switched from Kanye
I think its also the fact that she used the term "legally" while trying to maintain that her relationship (not married/pregnant) with her church is seen as being equal to marriage. She had a blessing done. That's all she had to say. Its offensive that she thinks she's better than everyone due to her "legal engagement." No girl, your pregnancy is still frowned upon by your God but I hear he's very forgiving.. So there's that.
Braunx I actually feel it's the other way around. I no longer go to church but I did attend a Christian church and still believe in God. To me it's disrespectful to say being engaged is the same as being married. I don't see anyone bashing her church or God. Theirs no way a Christian church that follows the Bible would consider those two the same.
On another note... did we ever figure out who pajama was? Was it KNC? I can see her doing something like that..
Also, isn't that ironic about "god" braunx? So many sins but he forgives everything but your in trouble for sinning but who cares because you'll be forgiven but he doesn't like it? Religion makes no sense to me.
*this is in no way disrespecting anybody who believes in God or religion. Just my own view of confusion.
**how come nobody has ever heard about this church knc? I'm sure if we knew what kind of church this was, it would make more sense to us. Don't hide it. Any form of Christianity that I have ever heard of, would never do this. So very interested to learn something new. And I'm not being disrespectful, I'm simply just curious.
Alrighty here's my 2 cents... I don't think her church nor God are being bashed I've done nothing but read these comments and being a believer myself.... I wouldn't go to a church like that.. honestly the questions asked are very legit as what she's saying doesn't make since... yes God is forgiving but to say your church had a "legal" engagement is weird never heard of it myself anyways. Premarital sex is not just looked past by getting "legally" engaged in fact most Christian parents would make their children get "actually" (since we're using terms loosely around here) married in the courts and have a ceremony in the church. Ok 2 cents done ✌?
Just jumping in, then right out. I know of "legal" engagements in a way to obtain a visa. For example, a friend of mine married a girl from Ukraine. She came over on a fiancée visa so I guess technically they were legally engaged in order for her to legally come here. Other than that, I think op does not understand the meaning of the word "legal". If she had used "blessed", "church approved", etc, it wouldn't have been so confusing.
ETA- oops, not op. @knc. Darn, she's all over this thread so I assumed without looking.
Honestly if your already pregnant and engaged just get married through the courts. Your parents basically support you. So it will be a long time before you can afford that extravagant wedding. I am sure it's is more important in any church to actually be married then engaged. Your trying to make it seem like your church makes engagement equal to marriage.I highly doubt that. If you read the Bible you cannot tell me those two are equal at all.
@knc Not everyone on this thread believes in the same god, or any god at all. So your god is not all of our god. ?
I also don't see anyone "disrespecting" you. These ladies are just asking questions and giving opinions. Just like my opinion is that it makes no sense for a church to officiate an engagement. *shrugs* Oh ?
I think it was only like $40 for us to get married at the courthouse. We literally got married at the courthouse and then threw a ceremony later.
I really don't understand the whole thing with your church though. I agree with @squiggins, you're engaged and the church knows about it. Lol
Engagement is not recognized the same as marriage. Marriage is you vowing in the presence of God (or whatever other higher power you believe in according to your religion) or in front of someone legally ordained that you take one another for the rest of your lives. Simply having a recognition ceremony at your nondenominational church does not make you LEGALLY engaged. Did you have a certificate filled out and send to your county's courthouse to be filed away?
@serena your case is different because of your religion and I realize that. I'm just not so sure about knc's.
Awe, pretty lame, OP.
I kinda feel really bad for Kim. I was reading an article the other day about how Kris has been paranoid that people have been following the family around lately.
I get that they're famous and its part of the gig but nobody should ever feel unsafe in their own home/hotel room/etc. ?
Thank God I missed this mess or else I would have had to captain for KNC. That's not something I want to do but you da shït Braunx for biting the bullet on this one ✌?️ ?
Also, Really Serena? Nancy? LAME. Omar Abudallat is where it's at....can you tell I had an islami wedding ?