Nyramak
nyramak
Nyramak·Мама дочки-младенца

North Korea-unbiased explanation

Is anyone following what's going on between the USA and NK? I can't seem to find an unbiased neutral article explaining what's happening. Can someone help me out?

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Steph

Trump is sexist.

Trump is racist.

Trump is a bigot.

My kids do not have to "respect" (if by respect you mean not vocalize their disgust with him) him.

They will be taught to respect the office if the presidency AND the Constitution by:

1. Using their constitutional right (1st amendment) to speak out and petition against sexism, racism, and bigotry. This includes assembling with like minded people to protest these issues.

2. (Unlike the current president) upholding the tenets of the 14th amendment by speaking out against anyone or anything that does not ensure equal protection under the law for all (see number 1 again -- ????-- if needed).

3. Exercising their 15th (and 19th) amendment right at 18 (see the the 26th amendment) to elect a president who is not sexist, racist, or a bigot. One who is worthy of personal respect and honor.

Please miss all of us with the "respect him he's your leader b.s" --because we are not domesticated animals, we don't just blindly follow our "masters." We are people, people who happen to live in a democracy. A democracy that was conceived of under the premise that "Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government..." (Declaration of Independence, 1776) --arguably the most successful democratic nation in the world.

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See we stopped respecting governments just because they were "the government" a long time ago!

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Hahahah. I'm going to disrespect president tiny hands all day every day and not give one damn about it..has nothing to do with anyone's kids.

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I think when the president openly disrespects the office of the presidency, it kind of leaves a free for all for everyone else...

Why respect the presidency when the president doesn't? ?

If you ever made remarks about Obama you have no room to correct people either, just like Trump has no room to complain about how "mean" everyone is being. Pretty sure every president goes through rigorous scrutiny.

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I find most of the people who say to respect Trump because he is our president trashed Obama every opportunity they could for two terms.

Prime example being Trump.

Like it goes two ways, buddy.

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@steph Trump doesnt treat people how he would probably want to be treated so just stop. Grow up and leave my kids out of this. Stop assuming how im raising my kids with something i said smh. (You know what they say about assuming right? ull just make an ass of u and me and in this case of you because your brining up my children) . Im not talking about your kids so just stop its just plain stupid thank you have a great day bye ?

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@Diane, your kids have a lot to do with how you speak about others. Don't we lead by example? Treat others as we would have them treat us. It has to start somewhere, why not with YOU?

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I respect the office, but not the man. He has no reason to expect respect and is, of any president I personally can remember, and insult to the very office he holds.

And talk about teaching our children things. How about being an aggressor against, to the point of being ok with starting a multi-country conflict, a country that's crazy, but currently harmless, by throwing a first punch at someone who really can't do us harm. Nothing like international bullying ?

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@Steph hahah wooooohhhh there. What do my kids have to do with this lol ??????? But ma'am (lets try to be polite and have some respect so ill try)

So because i dont respect someone who said

"They are not our friend, believe me,"

"They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

Just because i lost respect to him when he said that doesnt mean im showing my kids that. So dont make assumptions please. Ill respect him once he repects others thank you ?

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Respect is earned. His actions from what I've seen haven't done that

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Disliking and disrespecting aren't the same thing.

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@Diane- is that what you teach your kids? That they can disrespect someone they have a low opinion of? Shouldn't we respect everyone, despite our view of them or how we view their treatment of others? And even if you don't feel he deserves respect, doesn't the office he holds deserve respect?

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nyramak
Nyramak·Мама дочки-младенца

@steph do you not notice all the people who STILL don't respect Obama. That's why we live in a free country, so we can openly dislike our current president.

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Personally I'm a fan of "Mango Mussolini", but commander in cheese is definitely one I'll have to incorporate ?

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president cheeto ?????

@steph sorry i cant respect someone who doesnt respect others.

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First off, like Trump or not, he is OUR president. Be respectful of the office he was elected to hold.

Second, if it's a matter of us or them with this nuke business, it seems pretty simple to me. US! I'm all for casting the first stone when it comes to protecting our land and our citizens.

And before I get bashed for defending Trump, I don't agree with a lot of the things he does and did not vote for him. But show some damn respect.

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No typo there ? just seemed fitting

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Just laughing at "commander in cheese" @fivelittleangels

I'm sure it was a typo, but fitting

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Is a whole ball of bat- s*** crazy is what it is. You have NK being run by ego-maniacal turds who feel immense internal pressure to prove themselves a world/military power which they're in no current position to hope to fake at, but more than willing to try.

Now you have the commander in cheese acting like a schoolyard loud mouth poking the crazy nest with his own crazy stick. I don't think it's a huge threat to us directly, but he is goading them to act in ways that are not in their own best interests and may, because of our inevitable retaliation and their allies' need to respond, bring about a lot more serious a situation than just standing back and watching the inept craziness.

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I just wanted to say welcome back Rocky!!

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???? @mucky!!

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I think you've all missed the point to be honest. Park Geun Hye and her family were only ruling because it served the US (it was only successful because the US and secret service backed them in the military coup). Over the last few years we saw the South Koreans step back and then revolutionise against the puppet government, calling for Park Geun Hye to step down. This shook up the US as it might mean that decades of NK requests for a peace treaty might actually be on the table, it might also mean the US control over SK wanes and they may not be allowed to have all of those military bases in the area (the goal is to surround China) under a non puppet government so they stepped up the McCarthyism. It's the same pattern everywhere the US installs a puppet government, but the propagndised aggressor changes to suit each scenario.

In the past the US has always been subtle in it's approach but now Trump is in office, he has little understanding of the history so he's making threats that for once, may actually cause some real issues.

The NSL itself must be terrifying to the people of SK, they have no voice and are controlled by it so even if they do speak out against the propaganda against NK they are thrown in jail for 7 years.

To truly understand you need to go back to the lead up to the Korean war shortly after WW2, and everything since then and you'll find you may have a completely different opinion on who the aggressors are. The US creates the perceived 'threat' purely to control resources, land, governments etc, and if it loses its control over SK it loses its very important military base positioning near China and Russia so it needs to continually portray NK as a threat so the SK/NK divide is maintained and the NSL remains in place.

It happens yearly. If you take Russia for example, statistics show that each year between March and May the western media start to introduce propaganda in to the mainstream in order to maintain the McCarthyism effect. It's now the turn of NK but with such unstable leaders now in place on both sides, this may not follow the usual pattern and may have serious consequences. NK will soon blow, as I said previously if you poke the bear for long enough it will retaliate.

I just wish we could all get along and lead a life free from the elitests capitalists who use us as cannon fodder to maintain their profit.

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"Rocky loves Emily". Hi rocky! Yeah I'm not for war whatsoever. I pray it never happens.

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Thank you Iris ?

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Hilary Hates putin. Could you imagine going to war with Russia?

? I'm glad trump and him are on the friendly terms.

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Welcome back Rocky!

We are all virtually made in China so yeah. ?

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Iris- china has already gotten involved with trump on it. I'll try and find an article. I'm sure Russia will help us if we need it because they are crazy mutherf******s

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Are we really friends with China or do they just own us ?

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Russia and China are his allies but I seriously doubt they would jump in to defend NK. They are smarter than that to back him. He's a nut job. No one wants WW3 and it's in everyone's best interest to remain neutral.

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Idk but have y'all seen Putin shirtless on vacation ?

I would hate to see trump in any state of undress.

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I'm not sure what will happen with all of this but I support Trump. He cant just allow a country to threaten us like this.

With that said, I'm a little concerned about The Winter Olympics being hosted by South Korea this coming February. Hoping that idiot "supreme leader" doesnt get any bright ideas about attacking many countries in one swoop.

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We are allies with china, which makes that even better.

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I really don't want to add to the anxiety but against North Korea for now, yeah there are defenses but nuclear bombs from someone like Russia and China, their ICBM technologies are too advanced even for us

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My husband and Fil are big into politics and war. I hear it all day so I know a lot of what's going on ?

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2 nincompoops are comparing dicks to see whose is bigger and it's just a mess.

I think NK is tired of the US but it'd be suicide for them to start a nuclear war with us.

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@monkeys, you are easing my anxiety. ?

Just the term "nuclear war" makes me shake in my boots.

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Honestly I think NK is all talk because they know what we are capable of. NK is tiny compared to the US and for one we have allies that are willing to help.

bam. Boom. Done

I'm not scared of any of this because we have more of an advance in technology and "warheads" that it's stupid to even think about for someone to want to mess with us.

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I don't know , apparently they have one that could potentially reach the us.

I would rather not be in a nuclear winter, I like regular winter with snow not radioactive rain

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People don't realize what kind of technology we have that can literally stop missiles in the sky from hitting us.

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nyramak
Nyramak·Мама дочки-младенца

All the innocent people (on all sides) that will be lost ?

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The world's first war initiated by damn social media. For fûcks sake.

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After what they did to that poor kid and "testing" missiles

Little cheeto guys needs to be taking out. North Korea has been threating us for some time now, trump is just more vocal about it and I don't mind because it shows if you mess with us, your gonna get blown up basically. We can't always be naive

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I think it's all pathetic. Especially from North Korea's point, they started it all by finally figuring out how to miniaturize a weapon last year and are now in its 6th test for its long range capability. UN is trying to get them to calm down because there is no use for it or should have no use for it. They are doing that knowing it raises tensions but have their artillery pointed at South Korea for collateral if anyone chooses to try and test them. I hate it so much. Poor South Koreans...

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I definitely don't think we will be the ones to be blown up. In terms of warheads, NK has literally nothing on us. Kim should just stop while he's ahead, because he is about get his people nuked.

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NK has been threatening us for years. This goes back to previous rules and presidents. Something is going to have to be done or they are eventually going to have a nuclear weapon that can wipe out most of the US. Today they have decided to start threatening Guam also. Super scary situation.

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nyramak
Nyramak·Мама дочки-младенца

Can the world please go back to muskets and simple weapons ?

Jeez I'm just trying to pay my bills. I have no beef with any other country and Trump is going get us blown up ?

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I'm just saying at this point it's a pissing contests. Trump and Kim are trying to show who has the bigger Weiner and they are going to start a nuclear winter.

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I love how us citizens who have 0 say in what's happening, are the ones being mostly affected by the fighting between these "leaders". ? Why the hell cant we all just get along and defend OUR planet.

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There are decades worth of animosity between the US and NK, but basically what we're dealing with right now is straight up a "no, MY ? is bigger" but with nuclear power.

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nyramak
Nyramak·Мама дочки-младенца

So North Korea started the threats? Not that it excuses Trump's.

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This one seems pretty good-

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"North Korea best not make any more threats to the United States. They will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen"

From president Trump's Twitter.

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nyramak
Nyramak·Мама дочки-младенца

Fack ? why can't everyone leave everyone alone! No one needs to be nuked! I certainly don't want to see anyone go to war.

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I am so sick of the North Korean leader. Honestly if those in Japan and South Korea weren't in jeopardy by attacking, I would have liked for someone to overtake the damn dictator already.

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???

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nyramak
Nyramak·Мама дочки-младенца

Trust me it's not like i voted for the guy. I've just read some really biased articles. And with something this serious i want the real true story. I also don't have Twitter so i have no idea what he's tweeting.

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I feel bad for NK, they don't want to mess with the US.

I don't think they know what we can do to them

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Noam Chomsky has loads of pieces discussing the history of this issue.

If you poke a bear for long enough, one day they'll retaliate. You've totally f*** ed NK for decades and now it's fighting back, which as usual, impacts on us all.

progressive.org/dispatches/the-long-dirty-history-of-u-s-warmongering-against-north-kor/

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@rocky omg omg omg that was too funny. On my Facebook group we also call him cheeto ??

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I'm not sure how you cannot see the resemblance between the orange commander and cheese, and the crunchy puff snack.

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basically, NK keeps trying to flex their nuclear arm by running all these nuke tests. US called for tighter sanctions on NK with the UN. NK is now pissed and making threats to US. US is saying we won't take those threats lightly and that we will fight back.

i hope none of that sounded biased...

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President cheeto?

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?

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If president cheeto keeps Twitter threatening Nk.

Expect a nuclear christmas time.

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