Short Luteal Phase?

I've just started temping because I believe that the reason I haven't had a BFP yet, after 20 months, is because I believe I may have a Luteal Phase Defect.

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joanne_178

Oh no, why is it not covered? The rubbish. Haven't heard of the water sonogram, what does it involve?

Yes I noticed glad Brittney wasn't back yet, I've been looking out for her. I so hope it's because she's got her bfp!

I'm ok thanks, got a +OPK yesterday which was stronger than non-clomid ones so hope that means its made me produce more/bigger eggies! It's been a bit of an effort to get dh bd because he's got a sore eye (!!!!) but hopefully we've done enough. Now for the tww ?

I've started a new post now called 'short luteal phase2' so that you can read the posts easier! Not very original name I know!

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Im sorry its taken so long to get back to you. crazy week. i don't think I have to repeat any tests but I may need to have a water sonogram which is somewhat uncomfortable.

I also just received a bill for my hsg. I thought it was going to be covered. I'm not too thrilled about paying the $366.

I have a feeling brittney isn't around the blog. I hope its for good reasons.

how are you holding up?

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joanne_178

That's a relief that your principal is ok with everything, makes it much easier if she's been through it too. I think it's amazing how many people have been through it-because no one really talks about infertility, you don't realise just how many people have also suffered.

Think Brittney must be back any day so we can hopefully start a new post very soon!

Have been looking into what happens after the initial consultation and sometimes in the uk, you also have a treatment assessment (they do blood tests, u/s and sa again), a follow up appointment (to discuss the results) and then a treatment planning appt (to actually plan the treatment). So that sounds like much more waiting for me! At least these should happen quite quickly since we'll be paying for it all. Seems such a waste to do some of the tests again though. Will you have to have all these appt's as well?

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I spoke to my principal about fertility treatment and she seems pretty ok with me coming in late. I heard from gossipy teachers that she may have gone through it herself.

yes. lets wait for brittney to start a new thread.

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joanne_178

That would be very exciting if we do ivf at the same time! I'm not sure how quickly I can get started after my first consultation. I'm thinking first consultation nov/dec and then get started on ivf jan/feb. Sounds like you may get started quicker than me though? ?

Re a new post: sorry your settings didn't work, shall we wait for Brittney to get back and then set up a new post then, so she can easily join us on it?

Are your work being ok about you having time off for the ivf or haven't you told them yet? I hate telling people!!

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sorry about work yesterday. I know the feeling all too well.

I spoke to my drs office yesterday. they said my thyroid level is a little low for ttc so they put me on meds. they want to recheck it in 30 days. they also said my amy came back at .72 which gave me a score of 6. every office does the calculations differently so my ovarian reserve is coming up as fair which is better than it could be.

I tried to adjust the settings but no luck.

it sounds like we will be doing ivf at the same time. how exciting!

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joanne_178

Ha ha ha ha ha! Well in that case you do very well to earn that many tips in a dirty moose lodge!

I'm ok thanks, got my doctors appt to refer me to ivf clinic on Monday. Finally. My clinic say they're working on oct nov appointments at the moment so that should be quite good timing.

Another pregnancy announcement at work yesterday so had to leave the room for a bit to have a little cry ?. Any news with you? Did you get any further with your ivf?

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don't be impressed...I work in a dirty moose lodge. ive done well lately but I worked Tuesday night and only made 60 bucks. I will try the settings. thanks for the tip. how are you?

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joanne_178

Comedy Club was probably great medicine for you. Wow you make alot bartending! is that in tips?! What type of bar do you work in?...it must be a posh one to get those tips?! ?

Happy to start new thread if you prefer, but to make it easier you could reverse replies (Settings-Customise-Reverse Replies) to save you having to do any more scrolling! It's so handy as I hate scrolling too!

Brittney must be home soon, bet she's having an amazing time!

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I had a pretty good weekend. I worked Friday night bartending and made over $350. Saturday night I went to a comedy club which was pretty fun.

I'm getting used to my current diagnosis. I am hopeful ivf will do the trick.

how was your weekend?

btw- what do you think about starting a new thread? I'm getting tired of scrolling down. :)

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joanne_178

That's brilliant that your insurance costs everything and that you can get started so quickly. You're so lucky, you could well have your bfp before the year is out. Wow! ?

How was your weekend?

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luckily my insurance is wonderful. it covers up to 50000 bucks for fertility treatments.

it sounds like you are eager to begin but you have a very rational outlook on things. hopefully the professionals will help us out.

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joanne_178

I know that it feels scary but its great that your doctor is keen to get started, to get you your dream. If you're doing ivf they an at least freeze any surplus eggs, so that you don't have to rush into having any more children, if you want more than 1.

I'm feeling ok about the ivf track, I just want to get going as I'm so fed up of all the waiting. I'm not looking forward to the emotional side of things but I don't think I'll start to worry about that until we start the treatment and it all becomes real. I try hard not to think about the outcome, as I'm scared to get my hopes up only to be absolutely devastate if it didn't work. Does your insurance cover you for your treatment? We will have to pay for ours an its going to cost about £4000 per ivf cycle! Eeek.

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dh has another appointment with the urologist at the end of October to get results from another blood test and semen analysis to see if we can start in november. if his sperm is of poor quality we will have to wait. it scares me because my Dr is telling me he wants to get started soon because of my diminished reserve. I don't want to waste any more eggs. .. I don't have many to waste.

a short af sounds good to me, less time wasted. what does your dr say about it? how are you handling the ivf track emotionally?

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joanne_178

I'm pleased that you've got some answers but I'm sorry to hear that the answer is that ivf is your only option. November is still quite quick to get started though. That means that there's a good chance you could be pg before the end of this year, which is the best news! Do you or dh need to have any more before you start the ivf?

I've got a doctors appt 5 October to be referred to the clinic to start our ivf. I contacted the clinic to see if I could be referred to them before have had my lap, dye and hysteroscopy and they said they recommend that I am as their earliest appt for the initial consultation is currently November. I'm hoping that we'll be able to start the treatment in January, but I'm not sure if they can get started after the initial consultation or if there's anything else they need to do first. I desperately hope there isn't. Hopefully I won't be too far behind you which is exciting!

My 1st clomid af was very odd...pretty heavy and only lasted 1 day! Round 2 of clomid starts today!

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hi Sharon I'm sorry you're spotting. I hope next cycle will be better for you.

our results did not come back too positively. I have diminished ovarian reserve which stinks. dh has very poor sperm. we were told we definitely will not be able to conceive unless we do ivf. in a way it is good to know what we are in for but its sad. because dh has poor sperm quality we cant start ivf until at least November. ugh!

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joanne_178

Well as expected, Clomid cycle 1 = BFFAIL!! Spotting started today. I hate this part of the month when I just wish that af would show up and be done with it.

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joanne_178

Wow that's a lot of kids! And no wonder that's keeping your mind off things.

Is pretty rubbish being back at work knowing that this time last week I was probably on the beach ? but I'm just counting down the days until the weekend an trying not to obsess over ttc. Haven't started spotting yet, today is cd27 and the latest I've ever started spotting is cd29 so still a few days yet and I dot even know if Clomid will have changed my cycle anyway. I hate not knowing when I o'd!

Have you had any more results back from your tests?

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I am enjoying my new classes. I really have my work cut out for me. I have over 135 students this year. that's a lot of names to memorize. it is good to be at work too because I have absolutely no time to stress over my fertility. hows your week going?

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joanne_178

Thank you! I've just googled it and it's to check if there are any problems with the womb, preventing the bfp. Just wish the appt would get here soon, it's so long away!

How is your week going? Are you enjoying being back with the kids, letting them help to take your mind of things a bit?

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I'm wishing for bfp for both of you! I don't know anything about the hysteroscopy. what does it tell the drs?

I'm not sure how long brittney is away but I hope shes having a blast!

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joanne_178

Sounds like you'll have more answers before this week is out which is good. I wonder if they'll just ask him lots of questions on Thursday and then maybe have a feel around 'down there'. I can't think of much else they can do to him, except maybe take some bloods from him too? Maybe they can prescribe something that will help to boost his numbers? I've heard that men can take Clomid for that sometimes.

Must be really sad for you thinking about 'this time last year' ?

I asked if I could get an earlier appt and they said that the one that they've given me is the earliest. Am hoping and praying that the Clomid works and it isn't necessary. I thought the appt was just for a lap and dye but it's for a hysteroscopy also! The hysteroscopy sounds very similar to the hsg and a bit unnecessary. Have been told I should take a week off work after the op which sounds a bit excessive.

Am so jealous...Brittney's probably having a great time at Disney. How long was she gong for? Am hoping she may have some good bfp news for us!

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I know what you mean. I was pregnant this time last year. :(

I feel like a pincushion. I have had blood taken every week for the last month. I'm hoping I'm pretty well set with my testing now. I'm just really hoping my ovarian reserve test comes back ok. dh has his urologist appointment on Thursday so I'm really curious what will happen there.

do you think you will get in any sooner than November to start testing? maybe this is it now and you wont have to go through this chaos.

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joanne_178

Yes i am, am due to start spotting any day and af is due this weekend. Have been reading stories about Clomid being unsuccessful when ovulating regularly, to try to stop me getting my hopes up! How are you feeling?...you've had quite a lot going in lately with all your tests?

Had my pre-op appt for my lap, dye and hysteroscopy today. It's all booked for 29 Nov as they can't do it any sooner. Am thinking about starting my referral to the private clinic to start the I've process before then though as I want to try to prevent yet more waiting. I so badly wanted to be pg for Xmas/new year, this year, but it's not looking too good right now!

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thanks Sharon. im sure i wont hear my results for. week or so. are you in your tww?

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joanne_178

Thank you Katie!

At least ivf is still an option for you, if dh has low count. Hopefully if they do find anything in your blood test results they can fix things nice and easy and it's so good that dh is being such a good sport. My dh does things that I ask him to but I do wish that he was a bit more thoughtful about everything. He didn't even think for one second that I might be feeling a bit rubbish about the baby shower yesterday. Good luck with your test tomorrow, I'm sure everything will be just fine. Let me know how you get on ?

Happy anniversary Brittney! Hope you're in/on your way to Disney now. You're so so so lucky! Have a wonderful break and enjoy dinner with Alice!

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welcome back Sharon. I don't know the stats on dh semen analysis just that the Dr said its really low. hopefully a urologist can help us out. luckily dh is a great sport and jokes that whatever needs to be done, including surgery is fine with him but he doesn't want to wear boxers (hes a boxer brief guy). I have my day 3 test for ovarian reserve on Monday (Cd 4 for me). I'm still really nervous about that. I think id be devastated if he says I cant get my bfp because of that. every other test seems to leave room for hope. I guess we'll have to see.

happy belated anniversary brittney! did you have a nice day?

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joanne_178

Hey girlies I'm home!! I've just been catching up on your posts, from whilst I've been gone. Had a lovely holiday and we did lots of bd'ing even though we were staying with friends. So sad to be home and going back to work on Monday. Keep imagining that my bbs are hurting every now and then, it really is just my imagination though. I have no idea when I o'd but it must've been whilst we were away. Spotting is due to start at some time the coming week and af should be here by next Sunday at the latest. Got my appointment for my lap...it's at the end of November even though the consultant said it should by by the end of sept. I've got my pre-op on Monday so will mention it then. I think she's booked it late to make sure I've finished my Clomid by then. So fed up of more waiting.

Katie - sorry to hear that the witch may be on her way. ?

What were dh's sa stats? Does it help you to feel better knowing that you may have just found the reason why you haven't got your bfp yet? I wish that I knew what mine and dh's issue(s) is as at least then I could probably accept why we haven't got our bfp yet. I still had pre af spotting after my hsg, but it's been much lighter since then. Both of my tubes were clear so it wasn't painful thankfully.

Brittney- I'm so jealous of you going on your vacation Sunday. Have you had any symptoms yet? My fingers (and not legs!!) are crossed that it's 3rd time lucky for you. You say your dh's motility was 9m, was that taking into account morphology too, or was it just the total motile sperm? Is your dh's morphology good?

I have one of my bff's baby showers tomorrow. I arranged it for her and am really looking forward to it but at the same time I'm also dreading it. Can't wait for it to be over.

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so it turns out I'm deficient of vitamin d ...no biggie. but dh has extremely low sperm count. he has to see a urologist and my Dr said if it isn't improved an iui will not work and we'll have to go to ivf. I will be going in for day 3 test for ovarian reserve this weekend or early next week depending on when af starts. ive been spotting all day so i think she'll be here tomorrow. not fun. any good news on your front?

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ive heard of women who've had an hsg and after that got pregnant right away. it seemed that flushing the tubes helped. maybe that's what you need...you never know.

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i really hope all tests come back good. we dont need anymore bumps in the rd during this process.

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yes I found the hsg uncomfortable. not the worst pain in my life but pretty rough. I'm still waiting to hear about dh results and I just had my thyroid levels checked. I'm going to email the Dr on Thursday to see what the plan is. happy anniversary!

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im 7dpo too:) still dont feel different but i know its early. my anniversary is on thurs. 4 years:) gonna have a nice dinner and stay in. did u say ur hsg hurt? i asked my RE about it but she said since i got pregnant on my own i shouldnt have blocked tubes. im not sure though, i think i would feel better to double check. if i dont get a bfp this time then they want to reevaluate dh again. ive been responding well to the meds so maybe his count is slightly low. not sure what they will suggest. i have a hugh fx for you. maybe the hsg will fix ur spotting and stop it.

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I'm about 7-8 dpo now on Cd 18. I usually start spotting around now but I'm wondering if the hsg has put my spotting off. we'll see...

I will be thinking of you on Sunday. I'm hoping this is it.

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thats awesome about ur sisters wedding:) glad everything went well. i have five more dys!! so ready for the vaca. i dont blame u for not testing. if i wasnt on the crinone i wouldnt test either. im gonna test sun morn before i leave so if its positive my dh will be there with me. im nervous. dont really feel any different. other than horrible constipation but i think its from the meds. im only 6dpo so its still early.

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your Disney breakfast takes me back :). my sisters wedding was great. she looked amazing! I'm super tired today from all the running around. I'm not planning on testing as I'm pretty sure I need some assistance to get my bfp. if I don't get af in the next 2 weeks I will test. how about you? how many days until you test?

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aww, ur sister is getting married?? thats awesome. i assume ur in it. that should help take ur mind off ttc:) when ru testing?? my friends wedd is tomm. just booked a breakfast @ disney with alice n wonderland characters. lol. im like a big kid;) so excited!!

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I have to do more bloodwork on Monday for my thyoid and then we will see. I have my sister's wedding tomorrow. I hope the weather holds out. how's your wedding? where are you staying in Disney?

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haha ur silly. dont cross ur legs, totally understand. let me know what the doc says when u talk to them about ur thyroid stuff. i think they can put u on some med and get ur thyroid levels under control. just passing time for this tww:) i have a wedd tomm and then starts the week countdown to disney!! so excited.

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smoother is good Brit! just think you may have seen THE SWIMMER how cool is that!

I got a message from the drs office that my thyroid # was slightly elevated so they want to do more bloodwork. I wish I could call whenever I want but I know I have to wait until 9 ish tomorrow. ugh! ive got everything (except my legs) crossed for you...tehe!

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hey katie- it went so much smoother this time. his motility was only 9 million but my RE said they like at least 5 million and sometimes people get pregnant off 1 million. plus having 3 follicles gives a higher chance. just keeping my fx!! she seemed hopeful and i got to see his little swimmers through a microscope, lol. it was crazy.

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good luck brittney! I hope this is it for you. stay positive today.

the sauce was pretty good but I went a little heavy with the red pepper (mucho caliente). I have dh picking up more tomatoes to make the sauce lighter or if he feels adventurous we can turn it into Indian food with some chicken, yogurt, and curry. I will let him decide.

I will be thinking of you today brittney!

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Ooh sounds good. Ru a good cook?? Im not very good, lol. I do alot of frozen stuff. My iui is in the am. Wish me luck, I'm nervous:)

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I tried to cram in the last few things I should do around the house before going back to work. I also am making pasts sauce with tomatoes from the garden. enjoy your moms.

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dreams give me hope as well. i dont get to dream about me being pregnant or future children very often. but when i do its amazing and makes me feel so much better:)

how is ur holiday going?? im heading over to my moms for dinner. bet sharon is having the best time in fl:)

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weirdly I had a dream last night that a friend of mine whose been trying for over a year or 2 told me she was preggo. it gave me hope because she was told her ovarian reserve was really poor. I know its only a dream but I'll take whatever hope I can get.

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Thanks katie- u chicks r so amazing

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I'm pulling for you brittney! keep me posted.

glad the b vitamins worked for you tee.

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thanks tee and congrats!!

katie- i wondered why he said ur egg reserve level looked old wout bloodwork originally. wait and see what the cd3 bloodwk says. google vitamins to take to help. i think royal jelly is supposed to help:) hope the polo match is fun. never been to one. we dont have many of those games here i dont think.

i had another scan today. 3 big follicles!! if i get a neg opk tonight then ill have an iui tues morn; if i get a pos opk tonight then iui in the am. im all worrying myself (which i always do) thinking i didnt have enough sex before. we bd'd fri night and RE said that was fine bc dh needs to abstain. im just concerned like always. guess things r so perfect this cycle and im scared to get my hopes up.

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They never tested me for a short LP but after 3 MC i decided to do my own research and i.found out that b6 and b12 help extend it i started taking those along with my multi vitamins and now I'm almost 31 Weeks pregnant. Just my story hope it helps

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off to watch a polo match today. I'm trying to stay busy so I don't obsess. I have a friend who was told her eggs are older and shes done 3 ivfs with no success. I'm kindof worried I may have the same issue but I don't really know yet. the Dr will do a Cd 3 test for ovarian reserve next cycle to see how my eggs are doing. I'm dying to know if they're ok. hopefully my right ovary looks better than my left. any good movies for the long weekend?

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thats awesome sharon- ur going for almost two wks!! man, wish i could take a vaca that long. no big plans this wkend for me. its supposed to rain all wkend. getting the left over rain from Issac. hope ur having a great wkend katie!! safe trip sharon!!

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joanne_178

Thats great news Katie! I hope that's made you feel a bit better? Can believe how quickly your tests are being done-that's brilliant!! Wish mine had taken a matter of days!

Will be away for just under 2 weeks. Funny thing is, we decided to start ttc just before our last holiday in 2010 and I was convinced I was going to get pf whilst we were on holiday! Oh how wrong I was!! Hope this holiday is the one and I hope even more than 3 is our lucky number...3 iui's for Brittney, 3 days of abstinence for Katie and 3 of us to all get pg at the same time!! ?? Will catch up with you when I'm back. I'll be desperate to log on the whole time to catch up with some hopefully good news from you both! Take care ma girlies ??

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dh has to abstain for 2-4 days. I just cant imagine bding tonight so he's off for a while.

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katie- im soooo excited for u that ur tubes r clear. how long do they want ur dh to abstain from sex if his analysis is next tues? that seems like awhil to abstain if u dont have sex now until tues. my dh was told to abstain roughly 3 dys. but i guess its only 4 dys away so maybe its fine. just thinking outloud. and if u o on ur own the some meds will totally help. i will totally answer any question u have as best as i can. we r all in this together.

sharon- ur gonna have a blast. people always get pregnant on vaca:) fx for u. how long ru gone for??

so i still have three good sized follicles. a 20 on the right, and 19.5 and 17.5 on left. so i will take opks this wkend and if i dont o on my own then i will do the iui on tues but if i get a positive opk this wkend then the iui is the next morn!! so excited. three is the magic number. hoping this is finally it:)

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have a wonderful safe trip Sharon. hey the mile high club might be fun.

I just got back from the hsg. very uncomfortable but my tubes are open. dh rescheduled his semen analysis for Tuesday so no bedding until tues night for me. I'm hoping that since we are getting all this done we can really start trying next cycle.

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joanne_178

Hope the appointment went well Brittney? The weather in fl looks quite sunny and warm at the moment so I have packed all my summer clothes. Hope the sun stays out!! Will be logging on for the lat time before my trip tomorrow morning to see how you girls are ? Have you both got any nice plans for the weekend as well as lots of bd'ing of course! Had my last clomid for this cycle, last night and it's definitely bd'ing time for me too ??

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thanks for your input brittney. i feel much better hearing that you dont seem alarmed with one follicle. youve been through this fun stuff and i trust your opinion. while doing the sono he couldn't see my right ovary. he thinks my bowels might have been in the way. I hope my body reacts to ov stimulant.

good luck with your appointment today! I'm pulling for you.

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hey katie. i wonder what he meant saying he couldnt find ur right ovary? im glad ur having an hsg so quick. it will answer many questions. im also surprised he was dissapointed w one follicle on the left. most women only ovulate one follicle and thats why they have one baby. i bet if u get on clomid/letrozole u will have more follicles. this RE process is exhausting but try to hold on. let us know how ur hsg goes. and im glad ur dh will do the analysis. some men wont so its a good thing when u both r in this together.

yay sharon!! whats the weather down there?? it should be great for u bc the hurricane is gone so now it should be sunshine:) ur gonna have a blast.

i have an appt today at 1130 to see if the three r still growing. ive got butterflies. im so flipping nervous. last time i had 5 and then went back in and had 1, but she lowered my dose last time and didnt this time. so praying all three are there and strong.

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thanks Sharon. I'm more concerned that we'll need s donor egg. I am not sure of the costs involved with that. I filled my mom in yesterday and she offered us money if we need it. she has some decent investments that she could cash in and it wouldn't break her bank.

I hope you have a wonderful trip! get the bding on!

brittney how are you doing?

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joanne_178

I'm really sorry that your appt didn't go as well as you'd hoped Katie. If they didn't seem concerned it sounds like it shouldn't case you any issues. When I'm feeling really rubbish about a situation I always think to myself "what is the absolute worst that could happen here?". In your case, the absolute worse that could happen is that you may have to go down the I've route, which could still be extreme successful. I'm pleased that they're doing your tests so quickly though-it took me a year to get to where you are test-wise! Going back to work will be great for you to keep your mind busy. I'm sorry that you're feeling sad but try your best to stay positive, you're very strong to have got this far so keep it up hun ?

Brittney my countdown to fl is 28 hours! Last day at work today and going to check us in online this morning. I'm very excited! Excited for your trip to Disney too! You'll be going just after I get home!

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so my appointment was not as great as I would have hoped. the Dr did an internal sono and couldn't find my right ovary (he didn't seem too concerned but I found it weird) . on the left aids he only saw 1 follicle so he said that's more like what a woman in her early 40s would have. ive done a lot of crying today but we still don't have all the info. I'm having an hsg test tomorrow. and dh is having a semen anaylsis and blood work done too. I will have a cd3 blood test for ovarian reserve next cycle.

I'm hoping going back to work will distract me.

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thats nice u got double the supply:) i dont blame u. i wouldnt want to wait until nov 6 either if i could get something sooner.

17 dys until Disney!! countdown....what is ur countdown for fl??

katie- how did ur appt go?? im excited for u to start this process bc ur only getting closer to a bfp.

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joanne_178

It makes complete sense thank you! Am only planning to take them for 3-4 months (they gave me double the supply of what the doctor ordered!) and then move onto ivf. Just waiting for my lap appt then going to get my gp to refer me rather than wait for next re appt on 6 nov.

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i think out of this world things to sharon. its not just u:) i dont think the clomid works whether or not u have a bunch of symptoms. i switched to letrozole bc of the headaches from clomid and i dont get any symptoms from it. which is what the doc wanted. she didnt want me on something that would cause my pain like the awful headaches from clomid. however, i will tell u that clomid can thin ur lining out more. thats y i think its important if u can get scanned while taking meds bc after awhile ur body wont react to them so u wanna make sure everything goes good with it so u dont waste cycles. if that makes sense. lol. i know what im trying to say but not sure if it makes sense in typing. when do u see the RE?

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joanne_178

That's excellent Brittney, everything sounds perfect for you so far! The only side effects I've had so far are to feel quite bloated all the time and a few minor headaches, not as bad as I was expecting thank goodness. Although, in my over-active mind, I do keep thinking what if it's not doing anything/much and thats why I've got very mild symptoms?!! God I need to stop this!

Katie-getting pg is definitely my priority, am going to stick with my job until having babies is definitely not happening for us. Think it also gives me a focus, knowing that I'll change profession if I can't get pg, so that it will hopefully make something good out of something that would devastate me. Good luck at your appointment Katie, can't wait to hear how you got on and your next steps ??

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ooh how exciting katie!! cant wait to hear about tomm!! big fx crossed.

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Sharon I feel torn because I want you to love your job and I also want you to get pregnant.

brittney I'm so excited for you and your follicles. my appointment is tomorrow morning so I will keep you posted on how it goes.

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hey chicks- so had my cd11 scan today. i had one good size follicle and one smaller one on the right and two good size ones on the left. the amount she wanted!! so i got three right now. they r close in size so should grow together. so i take opks tonight and tomm, if i have a positive then i trigger and do iui. if i have negative then i take 50iu of follistim ton and tomm and do a scan fri and probably trigger. then iui on sunday. i would rather do an iui on sunday so i dont miss work and can relax. im excited and pray they grow how they should. i gotta get home and do some bd'ing:)

how ru all feeling?? do u have any side effects from the clomid sharon?? did u have an appt katie??

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joanne_178

Wow you've got your work cut out teaching 'children' of that age! Helps that you love it though! Wish I could say that I loved my job! Am sticking with my job for now and then, if the day comes that I realise I'm never going to have children, I'm going to completely change my job. Think I'd like to work in something like social care but undecided yet. It would mean retraining completely but that's ok!

Brittney how did your scan go?

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thanks for your support girls. dh should be in school for 1-3 years. we aren't sure yet because he is starting at a community college then transferring. I teach 12-13 year Old kids. they are crazy but that's what makes it fun.

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Good luck for your scan today Brittney and hope your appointment goes well tomorrow Katie.

Let us know how you both get on! ?

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The clomid has been fine so far. The hardest thing is telling myself over and over again that I mustn't get my hopes up that it'll work. As AF came early, my fertile period will be whilst we're away so i hope that we can sneak in alot of bd'ing as we're staying with friends whilst we're away. We're hoping to book one night in a hotel though so I may just have to carefully time that stay so that we're guaranteed some bd time during my fertile period!! ??

That great news that dh is going back to school Katie. Great career for him. How long will he be studying for? What age children do you work with?

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oh sharon, i forgot u started clomid!! awesome:) i had awful headaches from it but it did its job and i o'd even though i didnt get pregnant. i also o'd earlier on it so watch out and make sure the bd'ing gets done:)

thats so awesome ur dh is going back to school katie. im not good w numbers but an accountant is a great career.

yep, our doctors better b ready to do the job this cycle:) i go in wed for a scan. fx for some big follicles!!

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I actually go back to work Tuesday of next week. I am a little sad the summer is over but excited to see the new batch of kiddies. dh starts school tomorrow. hes going back to become an accountant. I'm excited for him.

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I hope you will be too Brittney then it will make the trip even more amazing for you and take your mind off of the sadness of last year, as much as possible.

Hope all of our docs know what a challenge they've now got in there hands...getting us all pg at the same time!!!

Am feeling quite bloated today...not sure if it's because I've eaten way too much or if it's because of the clomid. How are your injections going Brittney? Have you got any holidays coming up soon Katie?

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i hope both of ur docs move the show along:) im so jealous u lived in ireland. ive never spent more than a week away from kentucky. lol. but im a momma's girl and dont think i can spend that much time away from her. haha. im a baby.

totally love the 3 rule!! no crazy stories from fl other than we made it out in time. good weather and good surf. just a good time all around. now the countdown to disney starts. this time last yr i found out i was pregnant and then as soon as i left for disney (yes- i went this time last yr too) i miscarried. its bittersweet bc i love disney but to think a yr has gone by and no baby makes me sad. hopefully this time when i go i will be pregnant. fx!!

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I like the power of 3 rule. I hope we can all get bfp together soon.

I know what you mean by the nhs Sharon. when we were in Ireland last summer my aunt broke her ankle and had to go to the hospital 2.5 hrs away in cork city. I was a little surprised how relaxed the local doctor was when he called the hospital to let them know we were bringing her in for x rays. they spent a solid 5 minutes talking about the weather in cork city as compared to the weather in Beara before discussing her ankle. I'm looking at my aunt in agony thinking lets move it along buddy. but I must say the people are far friendlier than they are here.

any good stories from your trip Brit?

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joanne_178

I know what you mean, it makes this whole thing so much easier being able to chat to you girls, who know exactly what I'm going through!

Hope your tests do go quicker than mine. The nhs is great but they are so slow and in no rush at all when it comes to infertility! Going to be taking my 1st clomid tonight before I go to bed! Am excited and a little scared too, God knows what I'm going to be like when it comes to injections!! Katie-I know exactly what you mean there, dh always brushes it off too, saying things just like that. I'm sure they're just tying to be positive and make us feel better, but it just makes me feel like he doesn't care as much as I do. Having babies was his dh's idea too, I wasn't keen to start with and just agreed to it to keep him happy. Oh how things change!!

Imagine of we are all pg together, they do say good things come in 3's though!! Wow that would be amazing!!

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hey ladies. i love u girls and talking to u both:) im soooo excited for ur alls appts. at my first appt they did a bunch of bloodwk on me and an ultrasound. my dh was then sent for his samples. it moved pretty quick. i have an aggressive doc which i like. i cant wait to hear about ur appts and go on this adventure together with us all. then all our kids will be the same age:) and we can stay in touch during the 9 mths!! and im glad ur dh is coming around sharon. my dh didnt wanna go through with it @ first but once he met my doc and understood we needed help and was all for it. it helped make it a reality and he didnt think i was overreacting anymore.

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Sharon I know what you mean about talking with dh. mine is always positive we are going to conceive which is good but sometimes when I get super upset saying "our time will come soon" just pisses me off.

I think the testing may run faster here. you know us new yorkers always moving fast. :)

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Glad you got home safely Brittney. Yes I saw the news about the evacuations, think its due to hit in the next few days. Yes we'll be in Miami so hope it doesn't get that far! Good luck with your shots Brittney!

Dh and I went out for food last night and he actually initiated a conversation about ttc (if i ever bring up the subject, he just says "it'll happen/it'll be fine stop worrying" as a conversation ender!!) and asked what happens next! I explained to him ...lap, then referral to clinic, then I explained how the ivf will work too...was pleased that he asked about it, as we don't really talk about it.

Katie, your expectations of the 1st appointment sound about right, which is good. Hope they get the testing moving along nice and quickly as all of my testing has taken what feels like ages!

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the 1st appointment is a consult but I hope they take some blood and run a few tests. I know they will do an ultrasound and I hope they schedule dh tests too.

glad you had a nice trip brittney. I was worried about you with the hurricane down south. be brave for your shots. it will be worth it in the end.

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sharon- ur gonna have so much fun. hopefully it will be nice. they were evacuating where i was bc of a hurricane but i think u said u were going to miami so u should be good. i was in pensacola. on the pan handle. uhh. just got home and im exhausted. so ready to relax in bed with some tv:)

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Sounds like you've had a lovely time Brittney! Exactly what you needed! I can't wait for our trip to fl, this time next week we'll be at the airport! Where abouts in fl did you go? Sorry I know you've told me before but can remember.

My AF cramps have just started, so waiting for it to arrive, with my ibuprofen next to me, ready to be taken the moment she arrives!! Enjoy your road trip home! ?

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hey ladies- just enjoying my last night on the beach:) had a fun trip and tomm starts the car ride home. i saw soooo many dolphins so close to the shore. it was so amazing. im so excited about ur alls fertility appts. its the start of ur bfps and it will help u understand ur bodies so much. i cant what to hear all ur good news. i start my injections again this sun, mon, tues and then a scan on wed. ready to get this show on the road and get a bfp. now the countdown for disney!! sharon- ur gonna have a great time in fl!! cant wait to hear about it:)

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joanne_178

Wow that's soon, that's great. What are you hoping to get out of the appointment?

My temp dropped to coverline today so AF will be here tomorrow, even earlier than I expected!

Have you got much planned for the weekend? I'm guessing you're working in the bar?

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my appointment for consultation is on Thursday. I feel a bit better knowing we are getting the ball rolling. I'm sure Britteny's having a blast and soon it will be your turn.

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joanne_178

Ha ha if only I had the guts to! Dh doesn't even want to do it outdoors though, so doubt he'd be daring enough to do that!! Ha ha! Sorry you got a bfn but remember it is still early? Will you have to wait long for your appt? Bet Brittney's having a great holiday. Jealous!! ?

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bfn on my end. I used an ept 5 days early test. oh well. I guess I stop the crinone and wait for af. I will call today to schedule my 1st appt. for fertility.

sharon- I'm sure you can sneak in some bding even if it is on the plane (just kidding).

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I would test too, but cautiously, just incase it is still too early.

I would love to conceive in fl but we're staying with friends so not sure how mic opportunity we'll have to bd. I hope we do though as, if AF is early (spotting started 2 days early so I'm expecting AF to be 2 days early too) i'll be o'ing whilst we're there! Maybe on our last day though. Hoping it isn't on our last day as I don't really fancy joining the mile high club!!

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my temps are still above the coverline but that's likely from the crinone. may test tomorrow.

Sharon maybe you'll conceive while in Florida. just don't name the baby mickey or Minnie (just kidding).

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Pixie39-I'm so sorry, I must have read your post in a rush. Have just re-read it and see that you mc Thursday. I'm so sorry, you must be feeling so so sad to have got your hopes up after all this time, only for this to happen again ?

I started sitting today which is far earlier than I expected but never mind, at least it should mean I have a short cycle and will hopefully have finished the clomid by the time we go on holiday. Were going to Miami, which is a 8.5hr flight. Have my pre-op (laparoscopy) appointment my first day back at work (17 September) and then I should get my op date through faulty soon after that. My follow up appointment with the fertility specialist is booked for 6 November but I'm going to get copies of all my tests etc and ask my doctor to refer me to the clinic, rather than waiting until then, if the lap doesn't show any problems that need further tests. She said I can do that, rather than waiting for the November appointment, so I will!

Katie-I know how you're feeling, I've been so crabbie these last few days. Every little thing has wound me up and I've snapped at dh quite a few times over things that don't normally bother me. It is still early though so there's still hope for you. Is your temp still up?

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dh emailed the Dr and will go for fertility testing if he wants him to. still weepy. ..I stupidly tested this afternoon bfn shockingly. I'm finding myself more edgy with people today too.

thanks for your advice pixie. I have red raspberry leaf tea. when exactly should you take it (in your cycle)? sorry for your loss. I mc in November.

Sharon and brittney count down to fun in the sun!

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aww katie- i totally understand. im always an emotional wreck. it could be the crinone or maybe a bfp!! has ur dh decided what he is doing about the low testosterone? stay strong.

pixie- thanks for the tips. im all about trying herbs. i went to an amish doc a few yrs ago who said i had endo. ive never had a lap so not sure if he is right but i have that in the back of my head since im not getting pregnant.

sharon- i think im gonna go to the first visit by myself and then dh will come to the sec one. sometimes its nice to talk to someone outside of this and they can help me with my emotions. im trying not to be a bitter person so i need help. what part of fl ru going to?? how long is ur flight?? im soo excited. dont worry, ill tell the sun to stay out for u:) whats going on in ur cycle?? when do u meet back with the RE??

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Thank you for your suggestions, pixie39-I've kind of given up in the natural methods, as tried a few but have had no effect at all. Think I need something big to get me my BFP! This whole ttc journey is so hard isn't it, probably the hardest thing I've ever gone through, and you're more than welcome on our post ?

Katie-It sounds like it could be the crinone if you've never felt this awful before now. I have my fingers and toes crossed for your BFP tomorrow, hope your temp keeps going up too ??? Let us know how you get on!

Brittney-Great idea about the counselling, I'm quite a private person and dh doesn't really open up much either, so think I'd really benefit from counselling too. Are you doing it with dh too?

I love driving/being driven as it does give you great thinking time and is so nice to watch the world go by. I hope you've got everything ready and packed now? Make sure you keep the sunshine out in fl, ready for when I arrive in 11 days!! Have a lovely and a very well deserved break. Then you can be ready to take on your next cycle of hope when you get back, you can even have a few relaxing glasses of wine whilst you're away?!!

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hi ladies....hope you don't mind me chiming in...i was scrolling thru the posts and came across this one...which is strangely odd because I have a friend that is a natural healer and believes in using natural herbs alot...yesterday we were talking and she told me to go to the herb store to buy red raspberry tea leaves in either capsules or the actual tea...it is suppose to help improve the uterine lining for accepting fertilized eggs, it's suppose to help the ovaries/uterus not be so thick which causes infertility, helps to prevent miscarriage, helps to make labor not as long and as painful, helps to not allow birth defects, not to have membrane tearing and is suppose to help lengthen the luteal phase giving the embryo longer time to implant...reason why this came up for me is because we did the gonal f injections along with an IUI in July and on 8/6 I found out I was PG only to miscarry last Thurs...she wants me to start the red raspberry tea right away...she knows her stuff and has done some chakra cleansing on me...i have nothing to lose so will go to the herbal store today...I know exactly how all of you feel...DH and I have been ttc off and on for 10 yrs...this is not the 1st time I have gotten PG but have never been able to stay PG...it's nice to know that I am not alone in this fight...I am the only one on both sides of my family that has fertility issues...it tears me up inside...I just turned 40 in June so my window is closing...we plan on trying again once my fertility dr says we are good to go...here's sending all of you baby dust for BFP's :)

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great news brittney! ive been on the verge of tears all morning. I think its from the crinone. what do you think?

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sharon-dont ever think we will think different about u being upset over this pregnancy stuff. i actually am going to see a counselor. my ins covers five visits and i just need an outside person to talk to. my family/friends cant feel what we feel. i just think it will help and i hope im not as crazy..haha. i leave tomm (wed) @ 1pm. its a 10 hr drive but i like roadtrips. and the long drive will help me clear my head. im soo excited.

katie- i have a huge FX for u. we need some bfps on this post. and thats awesome ur temp went up. keep faith:)

i went in for my cd3 appt. no cysts so i pick up my letrozole tonight and start injections on sun. i have a concern for triplets but she said we r just going for it and praying only three follicles grow. then it will be likely one or two babies.

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thanks sharon. I cried again last night when dh got home and took a walk to the pharmacy which helped a bit. I'm off to ride now which should relax me a bit. btw my temp went up .3 degrees this morning. might be because I woke up to go to the bathroom in the middle of the night. I'm going to test tomorrow at 12 Fpo and again Friday.

you girls have some lovely trips planned. enjoy!

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