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Short Luteal Phase? I've just started temping because I believe that the reason I haven't had a BFP yet, after 20…

Short Luteal Phase?

I've just started temping because I believe that the reason I haven't had a BFP yet, after 20 months, is because I believe I may have a Luteal Phase Defect.

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Oh no, why is it not covered? The rubbish. Haven't heard of the water sonogram, what does it involve?

Yes I noticed glad Brittney wasn't back yet, I've been looking out for her. I so hope it's because she's got her bfp!

I'm ok thanks, got a +OPK yesterday which was stronger than non-clomid ones so hope that means its made me produce more/bigger eggies! It's been a bit of an effort to get dh bd because he's got a sore eye (!!!!) but hopefully we've done enough. Now for the tww ?

I've started a new post now called 'short luteal phase2' so that you can read the posts easier! Not very original name I know!

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Im sorry its taken so long to get back to you. crazy week. i don't think I have to repeat any tests but I may need to have a water sonogram which is somewhat uncomfortable.

I also just received a bill for my hsg. I thought it was going to be covered. I'm not too thrilled about paying the $366.

I have a feeling brittney isn't around the blog. I hope its for good reasons.

how are you holding up?

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That's a relief that your principal is ok with everything, makes it much easier if she's been through it too. I think it's amazing how many people have been through it-because no one really talks about infertility, you don't realise just how many people have also suffered.

Think Brittney must be back any day so we can hopefully start a new post very soon!

Have been looking into what happens after the initial consultation and sometimes in the uk, you also have a treatment assessment (they do blood tests, u/s and sa again), a follow up appointment (to discuss the results) and then a treatment planning appt (to actually plan the treatment). So that sounds like much more waiting for me! At least these should happen quite quickly since we'll be paying for it all. Seems such a waste to do some of the tests again though. Will you have to have all these appt's as well?

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I spoke to my principal about fertility treatment and she seems pretty ok with me coming in late. I heard from gossipy teachers that she may have gone through it herself.

yes. lets wait for brittney to start a new thread.

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That would be very exciting if we do ivf at the same time! I'm not sure how quickly I can get started after my first consultation. I'm thinking first consultation nov/dec and then get started on ivf jan/feb. Sounds like you may get started quicker than me though? ?

Re a new post: sorry your settings didn't work, shall we wait for Brittney to get back and then set up a new post then, so she can easily join us on it?

Are your work being ok about you having time off for the ivf or haven't you told them yet? I hate telling people!!

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sorry about work yesterday. I know the feeling all too well.

I spoke to my drs office yesterday. they said my thyroid level is a little low for ttc so they put me on meds. they want to recheck it in 30 days. they also said my amy came back at .72 which gave me a score of 6. every office does the calculations differently so my ovarian reserve is coming up as fair which is better than it could be.

I tried to adjust the settings but no luck.

it sounds like we will be doing ivf at the same time. how exciting!

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Ha ha ha ha ha! Well in that case you do very well to earn that many tips in a dirty moose lodge!

I'm ok thanks, got my doctors appt to refer me to ivf clinic on Monday. Finally. My clinic say they're working on oct nov appointments at the moment so that should be quite good timing.

Another pregnancy announcement at work yesterday so had to leave the room for a bit to have a little cry ?. Any news with you? Did you get any further with your ivf?

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don't be impressed...I work in a dirty moose lodge. ive done well lately but I worked Tuesday night and only made 60 bucks. I will try the settings. thanks for the tip. how are you?

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Comedy Club was probably great medicine for you. Wow you make alot bartending! is that in tips?! What type of bar do you work in?...it must be a posh one to get those tips?! ?

Happy to start new thread if you prefer, but to make it easier you could reverse replies (Settings-Customise-Reverse Replies) to save you having to do any more scrolling! It's so handy as I hate scrolling too!

Brittney must be home soon, bet she's having an amazing time!

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I had a pretty good weekend. I worked Friday night bartending and made over $350. Saturday night I went to a comedy club which was pretty fun.

I'm getting used to my current diagnosis. I am hopeful ivf will do the trick.

how was your weekend?

btw- what do you think about starting a new thread? I'm getting tired of scrolling down. :)

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That's brilliant that your insurance costs everything and that you can get started so quickly. You're so lucky, you could well have your bfp before the year is out. Wow! ?

How was your weekend?

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luckily my insurance is wonderful. it covers up to 50000 bucks for fertility treatments.

it sounds like you are eager to begin but you have a very rational outlook on things. hopefully the professionals will help us out.

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I know that it feels scary but its great that your doctor is keen to get started, to get you your dream. If you're doing ivf they an at least freeze any surplus eggs, so that you don't have to rush into having any more children, if you want more than 1.

I'm feeling ok about the ivf track, I just want to get going as I'm so fed up of all the waiting. I'm not looking forward to the emotional side of things but I don't think I'll start to worry about that until we start the treatment and it all becomes real. I try hard not to think about the outcome, as I'm scared to get my hopes up only to be absolutely devastate if it didn't work. Does your insurance cover you for your treatment? We will have to pay for ours an its going to cost about £4000 per ivf cycle! Eeek.

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dh has another appointment with the urologist at the end of October to get results from another blood test and semen analysis to see if we can start in november. if his sperm is of poor quality we will have to wait. it scares me because my Dr is telling me he wants to get started soon because of my diminished reserve. I don't want to waste any more eggs. .. I don't have many to waste.

a short af sounds good to me, less time wasted. what does your dr say about it? how are you handling the ivf track emotionally?

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I'm pleased that you've got some answers but I'm sorry to hear that the answer is that ivf is your only option. November is still quite quick to get started though. That means that there's a good chance you could be pg before the end of this year, which is the best news! Do you or dh need to have any more before you start the ivf?

I've got a doctors appt 5 October to be referred to the clinic to start our ivf. I contacted the clinic to see if I could be referred to them before have had my lap, dye and hysteroscopy and they said they recommend that I am as their earliest appt for the initial consultation is currently November. I'm hoping that we'll be able to start the treatment in January, but I'm not sure if they can get started after the initial consultation or if there's anything else they need to do first. I desperately hope there isn't. Hopefully I won't be too far behind you which is exciting!

My 1st clomid af was very odd...pretty heavy and only lasted 1 day! Round 2 of clomid starts today!

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hi Sharon I'm sorry you're spotting. I hope next cycle will be better for you.

our results did not come back too positively. I have diminished ovarian reserve which stinks. dh has very poor sperm. we were told we definitely will not be able to conceive unless we do ivf. in a way it is good to know what we are in for but its sad. because dh has poor sperm quality we cant start ivf until at least November. ugh!

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Well as expected, Clomid cycle 1 = BFFAIL!! Spotting started today. I hate this part of the month when I just wish that af would show up and be done with it.

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Wow that's a lot of kids! And no wonder that's keeping your mind off things.

Is pretty rubbish being back at work knowing that this time last week I was probably on the beach ? but I'm just counting down the days until the weekend an trying not to obsess over ttc. Haven't started spotting yet, today is cd27 and the latest I've ever started spotting is cd29 so still a few days yet and I dot even know if Clomid will have changed my cycle anyway. I hate not knowing when I o'd!

Have you had any more results back from your tests?

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I am enjoying my new classes. I really have my work cut out for me. I have over 135 students this year. that's a lot of names to memorize. it is good to be at work too because I have absolutely no time to stress over my fertility. hows your week going?

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Thank you! I've just googled it and it's to check if there are any problems with the womb, preventing the bfp. Just wish the appt would get here soon, it's so long away!

How is your week going? Are you enjoying being back with the kids, letting them help to take your mind of things a bit?

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I'm wishing for bfp for both of you! I don't know anything about the hysteroscopy. what does it tell the drs?

I'm not sure how long brittney is away but I hope shes having a blast!

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Sounds like you'll have more answers before this week is out which is good. I wonder if they'll just ask him lots of questions on Thursday and then maybe have a feel around 'down there'. I can't think of much else they can do to him, except maybe take some bloods from him too? Maybe they can prescribe something that will help to boost his numbers? I've heard that men can take Clomid for that sometimes.

Must be really sad for you thinking about 'this time last year' ?

I asked if I could get an earlier appt and they said that the one that they've given me is the earliest. Am hoping and praying that the Clomid works and it isn't necessary. I thought the appt was just for a lap and dye but it's for a hysteroscopy also! The hysteroscopy sounds very similar to the hsg and a bit unnecessary. Have been told I should take a week off work after the op which sounds a bit excessive.

Am so jealous...Brittney's probably having a great time at Disney. How long was she gong for? Am hoping she may have some good bfp news for us!

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I know what you mean. I was pregnant this time last year. :(

I feel like a pincushion. I have had blood taken every week for the last month. I'm hoping I'm pretty well set with my testing now. I'm just really hoping my ovarian reserve test comes back ok. dh has his urologist appointment on Thursday so I'm really curious what will happen there.

do you think you will get in any sooner than November to start testing? maybe this is it now and you wont have to go through this chaos.

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Yes i am, am due to start spotting any day and af is due this weekend. Have been reading stories about Clomid being unsuccessful when ovulating regularly, to try to stop me getting my hopes up! How are you feeling?...you've had quite a lot going in lately with all your tests?

Had my pre-op appt for my lap, dye and hysteroscopy today. It's all booked for 29 Nov as they can't do it any sooner. Am thinking about starting my referral to the private clinic to start the I've process before then though as I want to try to prevent yet more waiting. I so badly wanted to be pg for Xmas/new year, this year, but it's not looking too good right now!

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thanks Sharon. im sure i wont hear my results for. week or so. are you in your tww?

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Thank you Katie!

At least ivf is still an option for you, if dh has low count. Hopefully if they do find anything in your blood test results they can fix things nice and easy and it's so good that dh is being such a good sport. My dh does things that I ask him to but I do wish that he was a bit more thoughtful about everything. He didn't even think for one second that I might be feeling a bit rubbish about the baby shower yesterday. Good luck with your test tomorrow, I'm sure everything will be just fine. Let me know how you get on ?

Happy anniversary Brittney! Hope you're in/on your way to Disney now. You're so so so lucky! Have a wonderful break and enjoy dinner with Alice!

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welcome back Sharon. I don't know the stats on dh semen analysis just that the Dr said its really low. hopefully a urologist can help us out. luckily dh is a great sport and jokes that whatever needs to be done, including surgery is fine with him but he doesn't want to wear boxers (hes a boxer brief guy). I have my day 3 test for ovarian reserve on Monday (Cd 4 for me). I'm still really nervous about that. I think id be devastated if he says I cant get my bfp because of that. every other test seems to leave room for hope. I guess we'll have to see.

happy belated anniversary brittney! did you have a nice day?

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Hey girlies I'm home!! I've just been catching up on your posts, from whilst I've been gone. Had a lovely holiday and we did lots of bd'ing even though we were staying with friends. So sad to be home and going back to work on Monday. Keep imagining that my bbs are hurting every now and then, it really is just my imagination though. I have no idea when I o'd but it must've been whilst we were away. Spotting is due to start at some time the coming week and af should be here by next Sunday at the latest. Got my appointment for my lap...it's at the end of November even though the consultant said it should by by the end of sept. I've got my pre-op on Monday so will mention it then. I think she's booked it late to make sure I've finished my Clomid by then. So fed up of more waiting.

Katie - sorry to hear that the witch may be on her way. ?

What were dh's sa stats? Does it help you to feel better knowing that you may have just found the reason why you haven't got your bfp yet? I wish that I knew what mine and dh's issue(s) is as at least then I could probably accept why we haven't got our bfp yet. I still had pre af spotting after my hsg, but it's been much lighter since then. Both of my tubes were clear so it wasn't painful thankfully.

Brittney- I'm so jealous of you going on your vacation Sunday. Have you had any symptoms yet? My fingers (and not legs!!) are crossed that it's 3rd time lucky for you. You say your dh's motility was 9m, was that taking into account morphology too, or was it just the total motile sperm? Is your dh's morphology good?

I have one of my bff's baby showers tomorrow. I arranged it for her and am really looking forward to it but at the same time I'm also dreading it. Can't wait for it to be over.

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so it turns out I'm deficient of vitamin d ...no biggie. but dh has extremely low sperm count. he has to see a urologist and my Dr said if it isn't improved an iui will not work and we'll have to go to ivf. I will be going in for day 3 test for ovarian reserve this weekend or early next week depending on when af starts. ive been spotting all day so i think she'll be here tomorrow. not fun. any good news on your front?

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ive heard of women who've had an hsg and after that got pregnant right away. it seemed that flushing the tubes helped. maybe that's what you need...you never know.

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i really hope all tests come back good. we dont need anymore bumps in the rd during this process.

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yes I found the hsg uncomfortable. not the worst pain in my life but pretty rough. I'm still waiting to hear about dh results and I just had my thyroid levels checked. I'm going to email the Dr on Thursday to see what the plan is. happy anniversary!

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im 7dpo too:) still dont feel different but i know its early. my anniversary is on thurs. 4 years:) gonna have a nice dinner and stay in. did u say ur hsg hurt? i asked my RE about it but she said since i got pregnant on my own i shouldnt have blocked tubes. im not sure though, i think i would feel better to double check. if i dont get a bfp this time then they want to reevaluate dh again. ive been responding well to the meds so maybe his count is slightly low. not sure what they will suggest. i have a hugh fx for you. maybe the hsg will fix ur spotting and stop it.

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I'm about 7-8 dpo now on Cd 18. I usually start spotting around now but I'm wondering if the hsg has put my spotting off. we'll see...

I will be thinking of you on Sunday. I'm hoping this is it.

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thats awesome about ur sisters wedding:) glad everything went well. i have five more dys!! so ready for the vaca. i dont blame u for not testing. if i wasnt on the crinone i wouldnt test either. im gonna test sun morn before i leave so if its positive my dh will be there with me. im nervous. dont really feel any different. other than horrible constipation but i think its from the meds. im only 6dpo so its still early.

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your Disney breakfast takes me back :). my sisters wedding was great. she looked amazing! I'm super tired today from all the running around. I'm not planning on testing as I'm pretty sure I need some assistance to get my bfp. if I don't get af in the next 2 weeks I will test. how about you? how many days until you test?

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aww, ur sister is getting married?? thats awesome. i assume ur in it. that should help take ur mind off ttc:) when ru testing?? my friends wedd is tomm. just booked a breakfast @ disney with alice n wonderland characters. lol. im like a big kid;) so excited!!

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I have to do more bloodwork on Monday for my thyoid and then we will see. I have my sister's wedding tomorrow. I hope the weather holds out. how's your wedding? where are you staying in Disney?

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haha ur silly. dont cross ur legs, totally understand. let me know what the doc says when u talk to them about ur thyroid stuff. i think they can put u on some med and get ur thyroid levels under control. just passing time for this tww:) i have a wedd tomm and then starts the week countdown to disney!! so excited.

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smoother is good Brit! just think you may have seen THE SWIMMER how cool is that!

I got a message from the drs office that my thyroid # was slightly elevated so they want to do more bloodwork. I wish I could call whenever I want but I know I have to wait until 9 ish tomorrow. ugh! ive got everything (except my legs) crossed for you...tehe!

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hey katie- it went so much smoother this time. his motility was only 9 million but my RE said they like at least 5 million and sometimes people get pregnant off 1 million. plus having 3 follicles gives a higher chance. just keeping my fx!! she seemed hopeful and i got to see his little swimmers through a microscope, lol. it was crazy.

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good luck brittney! I hope this is it for you. stay positive today.

the sauce was pretty good but I went a little heavy with the red pepper (mucho caliente). I have dh picking up more tomatoes to make the sauce lighter or if he feels adventurous we can turn it into Indian food with some chicken, yogurt, and curry. I will let him decide.

I will be thinking of you today brittney!

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Ooh sounds good. Ru a good cook?? Im not very good, lol. I do alot of frozen stuff. My iui is in the am. Wish me luck, I'm nervous:)

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I tried to cram in the last few things I should do around the house before going back to work. I also am making pasts sauce with tomatoes from the garden. enjoy your moms.

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dreams give me hope as well. i dont get to dream about me being pregnant or future children very often. but when i do its amazing and makes me feel so much better:)

how is ur holiday going?? im heading over to my moms for dinner. bet sharon is having the best time in fl:)

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weirdly I had a dream last night that a friend of mine whose been trying for over a year or 2 told me she was preggo. it gave me hope because she was told her ovarian reserve was really poor. I know its only a dream but I'll take whatever hope I can get.

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Thanks katie- u chicks r so amazing

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I'm pulling for you brittney! keep me posted.

glad the b vitamins worked for you tee.

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thanks tee and congrats!!

katie- i wondered why he said ur egg reserve level looked old wout bloodwork originally. wait and see what the cd3 bloodwk says. google vitamins to take to help. i think royal jelly is supposed to help:) hope the polo match is fun. never been to one. we dont have many of those games here i dont think.

i had another scan today. 3 big follicles!! if i get a neg opk tonight then ill have an iui tues morn; if i get a pos opk tonight then iui in the am. im all worrying myself (which i always do) thinking i didnt have enough sex before. we bd'd fri night and RE said that was fine bc dh needs to abstain. im just concerned like always. guess things r so perfect this cycle and im scared to get my hopes up.

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They never tested me for a short LP but after 3 MC i decided to do my own research and i.found out that b6 and b12 help extend it i started taking those along with my multi vitamins and now I'm almost 31 Weeks pregnant. Just my story hope it helps

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off to watch a polo match today. I'm trying to stay busy so I don't obsess. I have a friend who was told her eggs are older and shes done 3 ivfs with no success. I'm kindof worried I may have the same issue but I don't really know yet. the Dr will do a Cd 3 test for ovarian reserve next cycle to see how my eggs are doing. I'm dying to know if they're ok. hopefully my right ovary looks better than my left. any good movies for the long weekend?

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thats awesome sharon- ur going for almost two wks!! man, wish i could take a vaca that long. no big plans this wkend for me. its supposed to rain all wkend. getting the left over rain from Issac. hope ur having a great wkend katie!! safe trip sharon!!

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Thats great news Katie! I hope that's made you feel a bit better? Can believe how quickly your tests are being done-that's brilliant!! Wish mine had taken a matter of days!

Will be away for just under 2 weeks. Funny thing is, we decided to start ttc just before our last holiday in 2010 and I was convinced I was going to get pf whilst we were on holiday! Oh how wrong I was!! Hope this holiday is the one and I hope even more than 3 is our lucky number...3 iui's for Brittney, 3 days of abstinence for Katie and 3 of us to all get pg at the same time!! ?? Will catch up with you when I'm back. I'll be desperate to log on the whole time to catch up with some hopefully good news from you both! Take care ma girlies ??

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dh has to abstain for 2-4 days. I just cant imagine bding tonight so he's off for a while.

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katie- im soooo excited for u that ur tubes r clear. how long do they want ur dh to abstain from sex if his analysis is next tues? that seems like awhil to abstain if u dont have sex now until tues. my dh was told to abstain roughly 3 dys. but i guess its only 4 dys away so maybe its fine. just thinking outloud. and if u o on ur own the some meds will totally help. i will totally answer any question u have as best as i can. we r all in this together.

sharon- ur gonna have a blast. people always get pregnant on vaca:) fx for u. how long ru gone for??

so i still have three good sized follicles. a 20 on the right, and 19.5 and 17.5 on left. so i will take opks this wkend and if i dont o on my own then i will do the iui on tues but if i get a positive opk this wkend then the iui is the next morn!! so excited. three is the magic number. hoping this is finally it:)

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have a wonderful safe trip Sharon. hey the mile high club might be fun.

I just got back from the hsg. very uncomfortable but my tubes are open. dh rescheduled his semen analysis for Tuesday so no bedding until tues night for me. I'm hoping that since we are getting all this done we can really start trying next cycle.

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Hope the appointment went well Brittney? The weather in fl looks quite sunny and warm at the moment so I have packed all my summer clothes. Hope the sun stays out!! Will be logging on for the lat time before my trip tomorrow morning to see how you girls are ? Have you both got any nice plans for the weekend as well as lots of bd'ing of course! Had my last clomid for this cycle, last night and it's definitely bd'ing time for me too ??

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thanks for your input brittney. i feel much better hearing that you dont seem alarmed with one follicle. youve been through this fun stuff and i trust your opinion. while doing the sono he couldn't see my right ovary. he thinks my bowels might have been in the way. I hope my body reacts to ov stimulant.

good luck with your appointment today! I'm pulling for you.

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hey katie. i wonder what he meant saying he couldnt find ur right ovary? im glad ur having an hsg so quick. it will answer many questions. im also surprised he was dissapointed w one follicle on the left. most women only ovulate one follicle and thats why they have one baby. i bet if u get on clomid/letrozole u will have more follicles. this RE process is exhausting but try to hold on. let us know how ur hsg goes. and im glad ur dh will do the analysis. some men wont so its a good thing when u both r in this together.

yay sharon!! whats the weather down there?? it should be great for u bc the hurricane is gone so now it should be sunshine:) ur gonna have a blast.

i have an appt today at 1130 to see if the three r still growing. ive got butterflies. im so flipping nervous. last time i had 5 and then went back in and had 1, but she lowered my dose last time and didnt this time. so praying all three are there and strong.

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thanks Sharon. I'm more concerned that we'll need s donor egg. I am not sure of the costs involved with that. I filled my mom in yesterday and she offered us money if we need it. she has some decent investments that she could cash in and it wouldn't break her bank.

I hope you have a wonderful trip! get the bding on!

brittney how are you doing?

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I'm really sorry that your appt didn't go as well as you'd hoped Katie. If they didn't seem concerned it sounds like it shouldn't case you any issues. When I'm feeling really rubbish about a situation I always think to myself "what is the absolute worst that could happen here?". In your case, the absolute worse that could happen is that you may have to go down the I've route, which could still be extreme successful. I'm pleased that they're doing your tests so quickly though-it took me a year to get to where you are test-wise! Going back to work will be great for you to keep your mind busy. I'm sorry that you're feeling sad but try your best to stay positive, you're very strong to have got this far so keep it up hun ?

Brittney my countdown to fl is 28 hours! Last day at work today and going to check us in online this morning. I'm very excited! Excited for your trip to Disney too! You'll be going just after I get home!

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so my appointment was not as great as I would have hoped. the Dr did an internal sono and couldn't find my right ovary (he didn't seem too concerned but I found it weird) . on the left aids he only saw 1 follicle so he said that's more like what a woman in her early 40s would have. ive done a lot of crying today but we still don't have all the info. I'm having an hsg test tomorrow. and dh is having a semen anaylsis and blood work done too. I will have a cd3 blood test for ovarian reserve next cycle.

I'm hoping going back to work will distract me.

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thats nice u got double the supply:) i dont blame u. i wouldnt want to wait until nov 6 either if i could get something sooner.

17 dys until Disney!! countdown....what is ur countdown for fl??

katie- how did ur appt go?? im excited for u to start this process bc ur only getting closer to a bfp.

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It makes complete sense thank you! Am only planning to take them for 3-4 months (they gave me double the supply of what the doctor ordered!) and then move onto ivf. Just waiting for my lap appt then going to get my gp to refer me rather than wait for next re appt on 6 nov.

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i think out of this world things to sharon. its not just u:) i dont think the clomid works whether or not u have a bunch of symptoms. i switched to letrozole bc of the headaches from clomid and i dont get any symptoms from it. which is what the doc wanted. she didnt want me on something that would cause my pain like the awful headaches from clomid. however, i will tell u that clomid can thin ur lining out more. thats y i think its important if u can get scanned while taking meds bc after awhile ur body wont react to them so u wanna make sure everything goes good with it so u dont waste cycles. if that makes sense. lol. i know what im trying to say but not sure if it makes sense in typing. when do u see the RE?

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That's excellent Brittney, everything sounds perfect for you so far! The only side effects I've had so far are to feel quite bloated all the time and a few minor headaches, not as bad as I was expecting thank goodness. Although, in my over-active mind, I do keep thinking what if it's not doing anything/much and thats why I've got very mild symptoms?!! God I need to stop this!

Katie-getting pg is definitely my priority, am going to stick with my job until having babies is definitely not happening for us. Think it also gives me a focus, knowing that I'll change profession if I can't get pg, so that it will hopefully make something good out of something that would devastate me. Good luck at your appointment Katie, can't wait to hear how you got on and your next steps ??

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ooh how exciting katie!! cant wait to hear about tomm!! big fx crossed.

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Sharon I feel torn because I want you to love your job and I also want you to get pregnant.

brittney I'm so excited for you and your follicles. my appointment is tomorrow morning so I will keep you posted on how it goes.

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hey chicks- so had my cd11 scan today. i had one good size follicle and one smaller one on the right and two good size ones on the left. the amount she wanted!! so i got three right now. they r close in size so should grow together. so i take opks tonight and tomm, if i have a positive then i trigger and do iui. if i have negative then i take 50iu of follistim ton and tomm and do a scan fri and probably trigger. then iui on sunday. i would rather do an iui on sunday so i dont miss work and can relax. im excited and pray they grow how they should. i gotta get home and do some bd'ing:)

how ru all feeling?? do u have any side effects from the clomid sharon?? did u have an appt katie??

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Wow you've got your work cut out teaching 'children' of that age! Helps that you love it though! Wish I could say that I loved my job! Am sticking with my job for now and then, if the day comes that I realise I'm never going to have children, I'm going to completely change my job. Think I'd like to work in something like social care but undecided yet. It would mean retraining completely but that's ok!

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thanks for your support girls. dh should be in school for 1-3 years. we aren't sure yet because he is starting at a community college then transferring. I teach 12-13 year Old kids. they are crazy but that's what makes it fun.

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Good luck for your scan today Brittney and hope your appointment goes well tomorrow Katie.

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The clomid has been fine so far. The hardest thing is telling myself over and over again that I mustn't get my hopes up that it'll work. As AF came early, my fertile period will be whilst we're away so i hope that we can sneak in alot of bd'ing as we're staying with friends whilst we're away. We're hoping to book one night in a hotel though so I may just have to carefully time that stay so that we're guaranteed some bd time during my fertile period!! ??

That great news that dh is going back to school Katie. Great career for him. How long will he be studying for? What age children do you work with?

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oh sharon, i forgot u started clomid!! awesome:) i had awful headaches from it but it did its job and i o'd even though i didnt get pregnant. i also o'd earlier on it so watch out and make sure the bd'ing gets done:)

thats so awesome ur dh is going back to school katie. im not good w numbers but an accountant is a great career.

yep, our doctors better b ready to do the job this cycle:) i go in wed for a scan. fx for some big follicles!!

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I actually go back to work Tuesday of next week. I am a little sad the summer is over but excited to see the new batch of kiddies. dh starts school tomorrow. hes going back to become an accountant. I'm excited for him.

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I hope you will be too Brittney then it will make the trip even more amazing for you and take your mind off of the sadness of last year, as much as possible.

Hope all of our docs know what a challenge they've now got in there hands...getting us all pg at the same time!!!

Am feeling quite bloated today...not sure if it's because I've eaten way too much or if it's because of the clomid. How are your injections going Brittney? Have you got any holidays coming up soon Katie?

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i hope both of ur docs move the show along:) im so jealous u lived in ireland. ive never spent more than a week away from kentucky. lol. but im a momma's girl and dont think i can spend that much time away from her. haha. im a baby.

totally love the 3 rule!! no crazy stories from fl other than we made it out in time. good weather and good surf. just a good time all around. now the countdown to disney starts. this time last yr i found out i was pregnant and then as soon as i left for disney (yes- i went this time last yr too) i miscarried. its bittersweet bc i love disney but to think a yr has gone by and no baby makes me sad. hopefully this time when i go i will be pregnant. fx!!

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I like the power of 3 rule. I hope we can all get bfp together soon.

I know what you mean by the nhs Sharon. when we were in Ireland last summer my aunt broke her ankle and had to go to the hospital 2.5 hrs away in cork city. I was a little surprised how relaxed the local doctor was when he called the hospital to let them know we were bringing her in for x rays. they spent a solid 5 minutes talking about the weather in cork city as compared to the weather in Beara before discussing her ankle. I'm looking at my aunt in agony thinking lets move it along buddy. but I must say the people are far friendlier than they are here.

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I know what you mean, it makes this whole thing so much easier being able to chat to you girls, who know exactly what I'm going through!

Hope your tests do go quicker than mine. The nhs is great but they are so slow and in no rush at all when it comes to infertility! Going to be taking my 1st clomid tonight before I go to bed! Am excited and a little scared too, God knows what I'm going to be like when it comes to injections!! Katie-I know exactly what you mean there, dh always brushes it off too, saying things just like that. I'm sure they're just tying to be positive and make us feel better, but it just makes me feel like he doesn't care as much as I do. Having babies was his dh's idea too, I wasn't keen to start with and just agreed to it to keep him happy. Oh how things change!!

Imagine of we are all pg together, they do say good things come in 3's though!! Wow that would be amazing!!

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hey ladies. i love u girls and talking to u both:) im soooo excited for ur alls appts. at my first appt they did a bunch of bloodwk on me and an ultrasound. my dh was then sent for his samples. it moved pretty quick. i have an aggressive doc which i like. i cant wait to hear about ur appts and go on this adventure together with us all. then all our kids will be the same age:) and we can stay in touch during the 9 mths!! and im glad ur dh is coming around sharon. my dh didnt wanna go through with it @ first but once he met my doc and understood we needed help and was all for it. it helped make it a reality and he didnt think i was overreacting anymore.

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Sharon I know what you mean about talking with dh. mine is always positive we are going to conceive which is good but sometimes when I get super upset saying "our time will come soon" just pisses me off.

I think the testing may run faster here. you know us new yorkers always moving fast. :)

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Glad you got home safely Brittney. Yes I saw the news about the evacuations, think its due to hit in the next few days. Yes we'll be in Miami so hope it doesn't get that far! Good luck with your shots Brittney!

Dh and I went out for food last night and he actually initiated a conversation about ttc (if i ever bring up the subject, he just says "it'll happen/it'll be fine stop worrying" as a conversation ender!!) and asked what happens next! I explained to him ...lap, then referral to clinic, then I explained how the ivf will work too...was pleased that he asked about it, as we don't really talk about it.

Katie, your expectations of the 1st appointment sound about right, which is good. Hope they get the testing moving along nice and quickly as all of my testing has taken what feels like ages!

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the 1st appointment is a consult but I hope they take some blood and run a few tests. I know they will do an ultrasound and I hope they schedule dh tests too.

glad you had a nice trip brittney. I was worried about you with the hurricane down south. be brave for your shots. it will be worth it in the end.

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sharon- ur gonna have so much fun. hopefully it will be nice. they were evacuating where i was bc of a hurricane but i think u said u were going to miami so u should be good. i was in pensacola. on the pan handle. uhh. just got home and im exhausted. so ready to relax in bed with some tv:)

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Sounds like you've had a lovely time Brittney! Exactly what you needed! I can't wait for our trip to fl, this time next week we'll be at the airport! Where abouts in fl did you go? Sorry I know you've told me before but can remember.

My AF cramps have just started, so waiting for it to arrive, with my ibuprofen next to me, ready to be taken the moment she arrives!! Enjoy your road trip home! ?

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hey ladies- just enjoying my last night on the beach:) had a fun trip and tomm starts the car ride home. i saw soooo many dolphins so close to the shore. it was so amazing. im so excited about ur alls fertility appts. its the start of ur bfps and it will help u understand ur bodies so much. i cant what to hear all ur good news. i start my injections again this sun, mon, tues and then a scan on wed. ready to get this show on the road and get a bfp. now the countdown for disney!! sharon- ur gonna have a great time in fl!! cant wait to hear about it:)

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Wow that's soon, that's great. What are you hoping to get out of the appointment?

My temp dropped to coverline today so AF will be here tomorrow, even earlier than I expected!

Have you got much planned for the weekend? I'm guessing you're working in the bar?

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Ha ha if only I had the guts to! Dh doesn't even want to do it outdoors though, so doubt he'd be daring enough to do that!! Ha ha! Sorry you got a bfn but remember it is still early? Will you have to wait long for your appt? Bet Brittney's having a great holiday. Jealous!! ?

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bfn on my end. I used an ept 5 days early test. oh well. I guess I stop the crinone and wait for af. I will call today to schedule my 1st appt. for fertility.

sharon- I'm sure you can sneak in some bding even if it is on the plane (just kidding).

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I would test too, but cautiously, just incase it is still too early.

I would love to conceive in fl but we're staying with friends so not sure how mic opportunity we'll have to bd. I hope we do though as, if AF is early (spotting started 2 days early so I'm expecting AF to be 2 days early too) i'll be o'ing whilst we're there! Maybe on our last day though. Hoping it isn't on our last day as I don't really fancy joining the mile high club!!

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my temps are still above the coverline but that's likely from the crinone. may test tomorrow.

Sharon maybe you'll conceive while in Florida. just don't name the baby mickey or Minnie (just kidding).

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Pixie39-I'm so sorry, I must have read your post in a rush. Have just re-read it and see that you mc Thursday. I'm so sorry, you must be feeling so so sad to have got your hopes up after all this time, only for this to happen again ?

I started sitting today which is far earlier than I expected but never mind, at least it should mean I have a short cycle and will hopefully have finished the clomid by the time we go on holiday. Were going to Miami, which is a 8.5hr flight. Have my pre-op (laparoscopy) appointment my first day back at work (17 September) and then I should get my op date through faulty soon after that. My follow up appointment with the fertility specialist is booked for 6 November but I'm going to get copies of all my tests etc and ask my doctor to refer me to the clinic, rather than waiting until then, if the lap doesn't show any problems that need further tests. She said I can do that, rather than waiting for the November appointment, so I will!

Katie-I know how you're feeling, I've been so crabbie these last few days. Every little thing has wound me up and I've snapped at dh quite a few times over things that don't normally bother me. It is still early though so there's still hope for you. Is your temp still up?

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dh emailed the Dr and will go for fertility testing if he wants him to. still weepy. ..I stupidly tested this afternoon bfn shockingly. I'm finding myself more edgy with people today too.

thanks for your advice pixie. I have red raspberry leaf tea. when exactly should you take it (in your cycle)? sorry for your loss. I mc in November.

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aww katie- i totally understand. im always an emotional wreck. it could be the crinone or maybe a bfp!! has ur dh decided what he is doing about the low testosterone? stay strong.

pixie- thanks for the tips. im all about trying herbs. i went to an amish doc a few yrs ago who said i had endo. ive never had a lap so not sure if he is right but i have that in the back of my head since im not getting pregnant.

sharon- i think im gonna go to the first visit by myself and then dh will come to the sec one. sometimes its nice to talk to someone outside of this and they can help me with my emotions. im trying not to be a bitter person so i need help. what part of fl ru going to?? how long is ur flight?? im soo excited. dont worry, ill tell the sun to stay out for u:) whats going on in ur cycle?? when do u meet back with the RE??

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Thank you for your suggestions, pixie39-I've kind of given up in the natural methods, as tried a few but have had no effect at all. Think I need something big to get me my BFP! This whole ttc journey is so hard isn't it, probably the hardest thing I've ever gone through, and you're more than welcome on our post ?

Katie-It sounds like it could be the crinone if you've never felt this awful before now. I have my fingers and toes crossed for your BFP tomorrow, hope your temp keeps going up too ??? Let us know how you get on!

Brittney-Great idea about the counselling, I'm quite a private person and dh doesn't really open up much either, so think I'd really benefit from counselling too. Are you doing it with dh too?

I love driving/being driven as it does give you great thinking time and is so nice to watch the world go by. I hope you've got everything ready and packed now? Make sure you keep the sunshine out in fl, ready for when I arrive in 11 days!! Have a lovely and a very well deserved break. Then you can be ready to take on your next cycle of hope when you get back, you can even have a few relaxing glasses of wine whilst you're away?!!

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hi ladies....hope you don't mind me chiming in...i was scrolling thru the posts and came across this one...which is strangely odd because I have a friend that is a natural healer and believes in using natural herbs alot...yesterday we were talking and she told me to go to the herb store to buy red raspberry tea leaves in either capsules or the actual tea...it is suppose to help improve the uterine lining for accepting fertilized eggs, it's suppose to help the ovaries/uterus not be so thick which causes infertility, helps to prevent miscarriage, helps to make labor not as long and as painful, helps to not allow birth defects, not to have membrane tearing and is suppose to help lengthen the luteal phase giving the embryo longer time to implant...reason why this came up for me is because we did the gonal f injections along with an IUI in July and on 8/6 I found out I was PG only to miscarry last Thurs...she wants me to start the red raspberry tea right away...she knows her stuff and has done some chakra cleansing on me...i have nothing to lose so will go to the herbal store today...I know exactly how all of you feel...DH and I have been ttc off and on for 10 yrs...this is not the 1st time I have gotten PG but have never been able to stay PG...it's nice to know that I am not alone in this fight...I am the only one on both sides of my family that has fertility issues...it tears me up inside...I just turned 40 in June so my window is closing...we plan on trying again once my fertility dr says we are good to go...here's sending all of you baby dust for BFP's :)

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great news brittney! ive been on the verge of tears all morning. I think its from the crinone. what do you think?

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sharon-dont ever think we will think different about u being upset over this pregnancy stuff. i actually am going to see a counselor. my ins covers five visits and i just need an outside person to talk to. my family/friends cant feel what we feel. i just think it will help and i hope im not as crazy..haha. i leave tomm (wed) @ 1pm. its a 10 hr drive but i like roadtrips. and the long drive will help me clear my head. im soo excited.

katie- i have a huge FX for u. we need some bfps on this post. and thats awesome ur temp went up. keep faith:)

i went in for my cd3 appt. no cysts so i pick up my letrozole tonight and start injections on sun. i have a concern for triplets but she said we r just going for it and praying only three follicles grow. then it will be likely one or two babies.

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thanks sharon. I cried again last night when dh got home and took a walk to the pharmacy which helped a bit. I'm off to ride now which should relax me a bit. btw my temp went up .3 degrees this morning. might be because I woke up to go to the bathroom in the middle of the night. I'm going to test tomorrow at 12 Fpo and again Friday.

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I'm so sorry Katie, we know exactly how that feels. I had another friend announce pregnancy her yesterday too and I did the same as you...put a brave face on and acted excited whilst desperate to be on my own the whole time, so that I could cry. I didn't say anything in my post yesterday as I didn't want you girls to think I was being silly. Now I remember that you wouldn't have thought that at all. Well done on putting on your brave/happy face too Katie. Its so hard. ?Sometimes I let myself think about being able to tell people my news (if I ever get any bfp news to tell) and it makes me cry everytime. How are you feeling today?

Brittney-your plan for this month sounds great and nice and aggressive. Dh and I go on holiday/vacation on 1st september and I'm so looking forward to it and having some time off work. I haven't enjoyed work for a long time now and I just have no motivation to speak to people at work lately, I like my own far too much at the moment! What time are you leaving tomorrow Brittney? How long is the road trip?

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thanks brittney. I'm going to see my dr who will likely refer me to a fertility specialist after this cycle. ive never reacted so strongly to a pregnancy announcement. I think the crinone may be adding to my sensitivity. I'm on Cd 10 today and thinking of testing on wed. we'll see...

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aww katie. im soo sorry. it was so nice of u to put on a brave face for ur friend. u have so much strength. as far as the testosterone im not sure how that works. i didnt realize he was on shots for low testosterone. has he been tested or seen a urologist?? im so sorry for ur day. please stay strong. maybe u should see a RE. its a hard step but its so worth it when u can find a solution to the problem. big hug

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hey girls. just came from lunch with 2 of my friends from work. one has a 10 month old and the other just surprised us that she is pregnant. I jumped up and hugged her but I'm hysterical now. she only went off Bc in march. meanwhile dh is texting me that his testosterone level dropped in spite of being on shots. it may not interfere with ttc but I cant help but wonder. I feel like I wasted my whole summer ttc and now im beating myself up that he may have the issue. I feel so deflated.

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since dh's tests all came back normal my RE said she isnt holding back this cycle (i had 5 follicles last cycle) and not lowering the injection dose. so if i have 3 follicles then i will do iui and more than i will do timed intercourse. so im ready for these follicles to start growing. i have my cd3 appt tomm to begin this cycle:)

big fx for u this week!! katie- when do u get to test?? wish i was closer to ur alls cycles but mine r longer on these meds. im so ready for the beach this wk. when ru going on vaca sharon?? btw....it took me forever to realize we call it vaca and u call it holiday. lol. i kept thinking they have a lot of holidays, haha.

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Sounds like you should be treating yourself to something nice with that 400 Katie!

Sorry that AF showed Brittney but pleased too, as it means you can move on to your next steps. What's your ttc plan for this month? Are you doing another iui this month? Hopefully the holiday bd'ing will help get your BFP!! ?

I'm due to start spotting on Friday, so just counting down the days til then, at the minute!

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finally AF showed yesterday!! go to my doc tomm to get this show on the road. and gotta start packing for the beach:) i bought some things with my bday money for the trip. katie- when i temp'd on crinone i noticed it always made my temp stay up until i stopped it. when i temp'd before i started the crinone my temps seemed more accurate. it sucks but i wouldnt read too much into them after u o just bc progesterone makes ur temps rise anyway so thats y they go up when ur pregnant. however, i still have my fx crossed for u. i want us all to get this together. also good job at making the 400, that never hurts:) we just paid someone 1000 to take a tree down....blahh.

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hey girls flax my crazy weekend is over, though I'm thrilled I made 400 bucks!

so my temp has been exactly the same the last 4 or 5 days. all 98.1 I'm thinking about testing Wednesday at 12 dpo. I wonder if the progesterone is making me so consistent.

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I hate the time just before AF comes, when you know it's just about to come but it always seems to take ages to arrive. What did you buy on your shopping trip Brittney?

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Awesome sharon.now the wait:)

I did some shopping today. It always makes me feel better. And finally started spotting. Hopefully she will hurry up and come tomorrow. Ready to get this cycle started.

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I finally got cross hairs for Wednesday! And we bd'd on Wednesday, yippee!

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No scans planned only a day 21 blood test for the first cycle. Don't think I did/will ovulate this month but that's fine, cos hopefully clomid will sort that. Wow I'd 'love it' if it turned out that I wasn't fully ovulating as then there's be some hope that clomid would work!!

Rebooked my pre-op assessment for my first day back at work after fl, which will give me a nice easy first day back!

Both you ladies have got busy weekend plans! It's actually going to be hot here in uk this weekend, for a change, so we're having a BBQ tomorrow which I can't wait for!!

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my mother in law is coming over tomorrow to go to a craft fair, then I'm working Saturday night from 6-1 and I'm working Sunday 12-6. that should keep my mind off of testing. my temp is still above the coverline but I was hoping it would go way up.

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My appointment for a pre-op assessment arrived yesterday, but it's for whilst I'm on holiday. Going to rearrange it today. Then to wait for the Laparoscopy (realised that I don't need the die part as I've had the HSG already), see what the results of that are, if it finds anything that needs treating, I'll get that treated first, then onto iui/ivf with the private clinic. Hoping the clomid works and that isn't necessary but I very much doubt it will, since I'm already ovulating. Although Fertility Friend still hasn't given me my cross hairs back (when they were put in earlier than i expected, they went after I put in the next days temp) so not sure if I'm just crap at temping or if my 2 opks were lying to me! Oh well I'll just sit it out and hope that AF gets here ASAP, so I can start the clomid.

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I'm sure the symptoms are coincidental but I like hoping they may mean something. at least I can say I tried listening to my body this cycle.

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yea, im not sure how early nausea kicks in so i def wouldnt test now;) but i have a big fx.

omg, its so hot @ work. i swear the a/c doesnt work.

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Ha ha ha your post just made me laugh out loud!!! Dh is looking at me very oddly now! ?

I do think 6dpo is a little early to test and will only disappoint you if you get a bfn. Why don't we strike a deal and you wait until you're 8dpo?!! ? What do you think Brittney?!!

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hey girlies...update...while brushing my teeth in the shower this morning the toothpaste went down the wrong pipe and made me cough for 5 minutes followed by me throwing up a bit (yes I have 2 masters degrees and I nearly choked myself brushing my teeth) . sadly I often have food/drink go down the wrong pipe so to speak but its never made me throw up before.

important info about this...I had about 5 milano cookies for breakfast before the toothpaste accident (breakfast of champions).

ive been a bit nauseous since. I made myself eat a peanut butter sandwich, drink an iced green tea and I'm now drinking seltzer. I also walked to the shops to run some errands and hopefully settle my yummy. no such luck though I haven't thrown up since. I'm only 6 dpo so I know its too early to test but I'm nervously hopeful. what do you think?

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That sounds like a real symptom Katie, hope this is it for you!! yes that amount of weight loss is a positive thing which can only help.

Am so pleased that we got enough bd in, as I can spend yet another 2ww knowing that we've done everything we can! Am 1dpo now with AF due 29th August which hopefully means it'll be gone by the time we go on holiday.

Brittney-sounds like you've got lots to do before your road trip. You must be very excited for the break. How long will the drive take?

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wow, thats awesome for him. yea im a symptom spotter and the one time i was pregnant i had no sypmtoms at all. this is a crazy game we play. what cd ru on?? or what dpo?? i get excited and have fx when its ur alls testing time:)

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hey brittney usually it takes 2-3 days after stopping crinone for af to start, although last cycle af started while still on crinone. I'm hoping this is the cycle. I am not hungry at all then suddenly starving and when I pig out I immediately feel nauseous. I may be looking into all this though.

dh has lost 25 lbs in the past 3 months maybe this will help?

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i dont leave until next wed and staying through the wkend. so this wkend i gotta get my oil done, new tags on the car, licensed renewed and clean my car out. we r taking mine to fl. i am probably gonna clean the house real good so it will b clean when i get back.

i wish af would start so i could get this show on the rd. how many dys does it take for urs to start katie once u stop the crinone??

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Sharon - great job getting the bedding in.

wearesoready- I was taking a b complex from Feb to July but I stopped this cycle because it definitely wasn't helping me. I am taking crinone progesterone after ovulation and it seems to be helping.

brittney -when do you leave for Florida?

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I'm so excited for you both, things sounds very promising for you both!!! You must be so pleased that you shouldn't have to resort to ivf Brittney!

Turns out I o'd yesterday after getting +ve opks for 2 days in a row, as my temp went up today. Am happy with the amount of bd'ing we did so now it's just time to wait.

Wearesoready - I've been taking complex b vitamins since before we started ttc approx 21 months ago and it hasn't made any difference to me. ? Thank you for the suggestion though. Am hoping that clomid will make my luteal phase a little longer.

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Wearesoready-.i took both but it didn't help unfortunately

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great news Brit! I love that fighter attitude. I'm continuing the crinone tonight and I'm pretty positive since my temp went up a bit today. now the temperature rise could be from the crinone but I'm psyched that I'm staying over the coverline the last 5 days. I'm often more inconsistent.

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hey ladies. well another bfn so now waiting for af. but we got the results back on dh's sperm test for dna fragmentation and his results all came back normal in all three areas. im so excited. means we can get pregnant on our own and dont have to jump to ivf. my RE said we r not holding back this cycle and putting my ovaries into overdrive. im feel positive and ready to start this cycle. hope u ladies r doing well:)

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Am very proud of you Brittney for staying so positive!!! Keep smiling as long as you can, there's still hope this month. And if this month isn't your month, maybe next month is, or maybe the month after that...! I'm glad you've had a good birthday. Hope dh has spoilt you massively too!!! ???

I got another positive OPK today and think I'm having o cramps so may be ovulating today but am going to keep testing until their negative, so that I at least have an idea of when AF will arrive. I hate not knowing when AF is due, I always end up getting my hopes up only to be let down again!!

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thanks chicks. u all are so awesome and make me laugh and smile:)

bday has been good. got another bfn but my doc wants me to test again in the am. just trying to put on this happy smile and if its a neg then i just gotta keep moving forward to next month. i def have the beach and disney to look forward to. gotta focus on something else.

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happy birthday brittney!

Sharon glad you bded.

I started crinone last night at Cd 13. hopefully that will do the trick. off to horseback riding.

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Ha ha ha that's funny Katie!

Happy Birthday Brittney! Just keep thinking those happy birthday thoughts and about your fl road trip. Sorry that you got a BFN but you will get your BFP. Maybe in a few days, maybe not just yet. But you WILL get it. No go and open those lovely presents and have a great day being spoilt by dh, knowing that you are very much still in your twenties!!! ????

Yes we managed to squeeze some bd in. Dh was trying to hint that he was too tired but he soon changed his mind!! ?

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I like your upbeat attitude. just a few hours til your 29th. don't worry you're still the baby on this chat.

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will do. i actually didnt cry or anything. just knowing that regardless it will happen. happy birthday thoughts:)

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I failed and tested, lol. Bfn at 11dpo:(

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yay Sharon. I hope you're not reading this because you are so busy bding. :)

hoping /praying for a full round of positives on this board!

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Don't be sorry Katie!!!! I'm pleased for you that you got some well timed bd in!

I've just got a positive OPK so I think that just proves how awful I am at temping! I normally o around now, so that makes much more sense. And now I'll be able to get some bd in tonight and hopefully tomorrow too!

Brittney-I agree with Katie, that's a very well timed fl trip. Either a celebration trip or a distraction "this is how lucky I am" trip! Is it just you and dh going? How long are you going for? Happy Birthday for tomorrow, I hope you have a lovely day and that you get the news that you wish for, if you do test. ????? Oh how I wish I could be 29 again! ?

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katie- ur so sweet:) my bday is tomm. as much as i try not to think about it i should be glad that i lived to be 29 and have a great family and husband. im hoping its a celebration trip but who knows. my boobs r slightly tender but the hcg shot can do that as well. i had some cramping the past few dys but nothing today. feel pretty normal.

ru glad u omd early?? :) im jealous. i hate o'ing so late. but i should be grateful i o @ all. trying to look @ things half full.

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do you feel any different brittney?

think of it this way if you don't get your bfp at least you have a nice trip to look forward to. if you do get your bfp its a celebration trip!

your birthdays tomorrow right? I don't Want to miss wishing you a happy day!

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uhh im so nervous. i can test tomm if i want. i just hate getting that single line. uhhhhh.lol. im freaking out.

i wish i o'd early. i dont usually o until cd17-cd20.

looks like fl is a go!! it sucks though bc i will be on my period that time if i dont get a positive.

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hey ladies.

Brit Florida sounds like a fun road trip. how long is the drive?

Sharon sorry about the cross hairs coming early. do you temp as well as opk?

I got my ff cross hairs for Friday also (Cd 10 for me) I'm kind of excited though (sorry Sharon) because we bd Wednesday Thursday and Friday. we'll have to wait and see. I'm definitely starting the crinone tonight. I hope I can make this happen.

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Katie-I'd wait to be sure too, if it's important that you take it after o (sorry I don't know anything about when to take crinone).

Brittney-road trip to fl sounds great, you should definitely go. That will be so good for you and will give you something to take your mind off testing (if that were at all possible!!). How long will you go for?

FF gave me crosshairs Friday which means I o'd a few days early than normal, if it's right. Am going to still do opk's for a few days though just incase. If it is right, we only bd'd Saturday morning which means that this will be the easiest tww since I knew what a tww is, since I don't think that gives us much/any chance this month. At least I may get to start the clomid sooner than I thought, if it's right, and I'll have finished it by the time we go on holiday which will be good!

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katie- u crack me up bc i was so obsessed when i was temping too:) and thanks ladies. she is a very special puppy to me. i tried to do some swimming today but its too cold out. my nipples are still hurting but it could be from the trigger shot so i dont wanna get my hopes up. ill know in a few dys:)

anything new w anyone?? i might take a road trip to fl next week. i got a free place so ill just have to pay for my gas to drive down there.

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hey girls. my temp went up to 98.2 this morning (really 98.3 but I temped 15-30 min later than usual so felt the need to adjust. I also took my temp super early by mistake and it was still 97.9 (on the high side for me).

I use the opks and had a strong positive for one day (Thursday) so I think I'm in the 2ww.

brittney I love yorkies. my dad had 2. super cute. glad shes feeling better.

I'm addicted to fertility friend. I went on there and put in temps for tomorrow to see what would happen. if my temp is 97.9 or higher it thinks I ovulated on Friday which would be perfect! I had a bit of spotting when I went to the bathroom before which makes me think that fertility friend was spot on (pun intended). I am going to try and wait to take the crinone tomorrow to confirm for sure that I ovulated. what do you think?

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That's so frustrating when it does that! Have you been taking your temps at the same time each day? What info did you add before it changed? I'm not very good at that so I don't rely on fertility friend that much, I rely on opks more. I think I got my positive opk yesterday but I'm not sure as both lines were very very faint but the sane colour. Am going to keep bd, keep an eye on my temps and do opks for a few more days, just incase. Sounds like you met have o'd. Have you been using opks? At least you've got plenty of bd in, sounds like you've got all those says covered. Remember the little spermies can live inside us for 5 days!

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hmm....weird. it was usually spot on with my temps. its a hard thing to figure out when to take the crinone.

my dog is a yorky. she turns 4 on tues and i turn 29, lol. just a little bit older:)

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brittney -glad the pups doing better. what kind of doc is she?

thanks for the fertility friend advice. I went on there now and it says I ovulated on wed. so I'm not sure if we made it or not. we bd twice on Sunday, Wednesday morning, Thursday and Friday. wish we had done it mon and Tuesday. I think I am going to start the crinone tomorrow. that would be 4 days past ovulation.

I went back on again though added a bit more info and now it says I may have ovulated between Thursday and today. it isn't confirming ovulation yet. ugh!

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hey chicks. she is better. had an infection and might have to do a diabetes test. she is pretty high maintenance but she is the cutest thing ever and im her mommy so i gotta take care of her:)

katie- do u use fertility friend?? has it said u o'd yet?? hope ur bd'ing:)

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thanks for the advice ladies. I woke up last night with terrible cramps. hoping that's somehow a good sign. my temp went up another. 3 today.

my sister in law is only 8 weeks so no word on the sex of the babies yet. I actually have 2 sets of twin nieces (one on each side of the family) and one nephew so whatever the sex of these twins is exciting.

brittney how is the pupper?

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hey ladies, about to take my dog to the vet. she started peeing blood this am:( probably a uti or kidney stone.

thats so awesome katie. congrats to ur SIL. and i am so proud of u for staying strong and not letting it get u down. im weak with those things but in the end its out of our control. as far as the crinone, fertility friend should tell u when u o soon. have you had any cross hairs yet? thats a toughy. my re always scans me so i know when i o through that and then she tells me when to start the crinone. i started today actually:)

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showers are fun to plan. I loved my wedding shower. they gave pretty umbrellas as tabors. such a great idea! I cant wait ti start planning my sister in laws shower. it'll be twice the fun since she told me last night they're having twins! I cant wait for a third set in my family! temp stayed the same today for me and I'm thinking of taking the crinone on Sunday if temps stay high. I'm thinking I haven't gotten preggo because I'm ovulating earlier than the Dr expected (Cd 9-11 instead of 14-15). he wanted me to take crinone starting Cd 18 each month but I think that's too late. what do you think?

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That's great Katie, I like your thinking! Now into the 2ww for you! I'll hopefully be there with you soon.

How are you doing Brittney? Have you had any/many more symptoms?

Am so pleased that its nearly the weekend! It's even going to be sunny here in the uk! Have you girls got anything nice planned for the weekend? We're going to do some gardening tomorrow then I'm meeting up with a friend and her little boy on Sunday. I'm arranging a baby shower for another friend (she's due in october) and thought that I'd hate every moment of it but I'm actually really excited as we've got some fun ideas and the people that will be there will be really good fun.

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yay! I got a positive opk this afternoon. glad we bded yesterday and this morning. will bd again tomorrow. thinking of clear water and sandy beaches and positive preggo tests. staying calm and positive. happy almost weekend ladies.

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I love the beach but would love to do more culture traveling. The resort in mexico was nice. Blue waters that u could see through. Omg, that sounds like the coolest thing ever. I've never been to a wedding with that but would totally love to. I'll recommend it to my future child:)

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Katie - Sounds like its time to start more bd just incase...I don't rely too heavily on temping as I'm not very good at doing it at the same time every day, but if your OPK is getting darker, it sounds like its nearly time!

I went to Mexico last year for new year and loved it. I love beach holidays so it was perfect for me and dh. I would definitely go back. We splashed out a bit on the hotel so stayed in a lovely all inclusive resort. Now no other holiday will live up to Mexico!

I'm so pleased its Friday tomorrow. I'm due to start on the opks tomorrow as I'm due to o probably Monday. Then the horrible tww again. I'm excited about picking my clomid up (picking it up on Monday after work) but am trying so hard not to get too hopeful about it. ?

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we had tons of pipers at the wedding! we had one of dh friends outside the church and then had the whole group at the reception where dh, many of the groomsmen and even the priest (a good friend and surprise an excellent piper) played together. we have a great picture of the two of us standing with the band. good memories. ive never been to Mexico. I'm not much of a beach goer. how is it?

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dh competes with a bagpipe band in Glasgow. I went last year and enjoyed my trip but he'll go over the week before competition to practice. that's no fun for me.

so my temp started to go up today moving up .3 degrees and the ovulation strip was darker this morning. I'm wondering if I'm going to ovulate todayish even though its only Cd 9. I wonder if the crinone is shifting me a bit.

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Scotland is lovely (but cold!), where abouts would dh go, in Scotland? Even so, I too would far rather stay home with a little one!!

My appointment for the lap and dye should come through within 2 months then have a follow up appointment with the fertility specialist early November. Don't think I'll wait for the appointment though. Will have the lap and dye and then will self refer myself to clinic for treatment, as I'll know the results of the lap and dye straight after the op, so there's no point in wasting more time and waiting for the follow up appointment to tell me what I already know... unless I need treatment following the lap and dye results of course ?

Katie I know what you mean, I get excited thinking about just going to the park over the road with a little one. Or going for a picnic...such simple things that would be amazing with a little one.

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spent another fun day with my friend's boys. today we did the whaling museum and ice cream. I cant wait to be a parent and show them the amazing things we have in our own backyard so to speak.

sharon-dh is talking about going back to Scotland next summer. I wouldn't mind staying home with a little one (God willing) if he does. I enjoyed my trip last summer but its expensive to travel so far.

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I wish I could cook too, banana bread sounds so good!!

You're right Brittney, even though we're still waiting for the one thing that we so badly want, we're very lucky to have all of the other great things that we have in life. ?

I'm looking forward to reading 50 shades on holiday, although I could be the last person to ever read it by then!!!

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ooh that sounds good. i wish i was a good cook. i have a few dishes i can make. ru on pinterest?? i get a bunch of recipes from there. just got in bed and gonna read some 50 shades:)

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its cool enough to use the oven here (finally) so I made fresh banana bread yesterday and I'm high roasting chicken breasts now. I think I'll make a pasta salad tomorrow. keeping busy!

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positivity is exactly what we need:) one week until the big 2-9!! im not gonna complain and just be grateful i made it this far in life. and the countdown to disney will start soon..so excited. and dh is making dinner tonight. it always tastes better when dh cooks..lol

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Thank you both for your advice, that's really reassuring to hear that it is necessary. I was thinking it was a bit of a waste of time but that obviously isn't the case. Great news!

You sound really positive Katie, that's brilliant! Bet it's nice having dh home again too. I'm cd10 so we're on a similar cycle.

Brittney, I was suprised when she said clomid wouldn't increase my chances too. I am carefully hopeful that it will help. If anything, it just feels good to be trying something extra. Even if it barely increases my chances at all...something is better than nothing!

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hey brittney dh is back and seems to have more energy for bd. I'm feeling pretty good. I went to yoga last night and went horseback riding today. I'm kind of tired now but feeling pretty hopeful. I'm on Cd 7 now. I do temp and feel like ive been more relaxed this cycle. I'm enjoying this beautiful day.

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hey ladies. sharon, im surprised that doc said clomid doesnt increase chances. of course it does bc it produces more follicles. i havent had the dye test since i got pregnant before. my doc knows at least one tube is open, however, she will want to do a laprascopy next cycle i believe if im not pregnant this time to see if i have endo. Dh is also getting tested again this week to check his dna fragmentation. lol. this stuff is insane:) i think im 5dpo, my boobs r sore but im pretty sure its from the hcg shot. im trying not to look too much into it bc i know i will next week and be a crazy person, lol. katie- is ur dh back in town?? how ru feeling?? do u temp?? i cant remember.

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Sharon - as far as I know the dye test is pretty standard when going through fertility treatment. all of the girls I know who've gone through fertility said their drs did it as part of the workup to rule out blockages and things.

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Hi Ladies,

So I've just got out of my appointment and they've referred me for a lap and dye incase my spotting is a sign of endo/polyp. I don't have any other symptoms of either so not sure if this is just wasting valuable time before the ivf referral. The waiting list is 2 months. What do you think? I'm still undecided about it?

I asked for clomid and she agreed to 3 months of it cd2 - 6 She wasn't keen, as she said the studies show it doesn't increase my chances but then said I should avoid taking clomid on my lap & dye cycle incase is gets me pregnant??!! Off to get my script for clomid now! How are you ladies doing today?

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Thank you both for your wishes and kind words, it really means alot to me.

Dh asked me when my appointment was, last night, so I suppose he'd kind of remembered. Dh isn't coming today as he any get the time off work and I'd rather go on my own today anyway. Today's appointment (as far as I know) is just for the fertility specialist to give me my hsg results (which i kind of know already) and to refer me to the private clinic that'll do the iui/ivf. Have had all my tests done as far as I know. Will definitely be taking dh with me to first private clinic appointment. Am hopefully going to be able to call them when I get home from today's appointment, to book our appointment with them. Then the plan begins! Am very excited and a little nervous! I'll update you both when i get back!

I'm sorry that you're not feeling well Brittney, but I'm also glad you're not feeling well, since that could well be a symptom!! Wow I really hope it is!!! ??? Have you had any other symptoms?

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brittney a sick pregnant lady is still a pregnant lady.

Sharon best of luck tomorrow! think of it as getting one step closer to your bfp.

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i totally understand sharon. is dh going with u?? is it the actual appt or just the appt to set u up with the specialist?? my first specialist appt she did bloodwk on me, went over dh's results, and did an ultrasound on me. it is a lonely road and if u havent gone through it then u dont understand. talk to me anytime u need to. we gotta stick together:)

i probably wont test on my bday bc i dont want bad news, lol. but maybe dinner or something with dh. i gotta enjoy it. last yr until i hit the big 3-0!! haha

ive been having so much acid indegestion today. feel like i wanna throw up. i get this crap all the time. i have a weak stomach. ill probably be a sick pregnant lady:)

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Hope you do get your birthday wish Brittney. Will you be tempted to test on your birthday?!! Disney does sound like it'll make you forget everything-just the break you need!

My appointment is tomorrow and I'm having a bit of a pity party about it right now! None of the 3 people that know about it (except for you girls of course) have even mentioned it or wished me luck. I told one of my best friends ages ago so I don't expect her to remember, told my boss last week and reminded her today and dh appears to have forgotten, as he hasn't mentioned it for ages ?

I'm not really sure what to expect about tomorrow but I think we'll fill out the paperwork for my referral and that's it. There's not really much else left to do/talk about. Am going to ask for clomid though as I'd like to try 3 months of it before going to ivf/iui.

Have you got any lovely plans for your birthday Brittney?

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its just crazy to think i mc'd almost a year ago. this time has flown by but ive gone so far. i know have a re and a plan so i feel like im moving in the right direction:)

we r staying for a week. disney just makes u forget all ur worries!!

my bday is the 14th (29) and my nurse called to tell me i could do my bloodwk that day. i moved it to the 15th instead bc im already bummer about turning 29 and no baby so i dont want two negative things on the same day. lol. who knows, i could get my bday wish:)

sharon- when is ur appt again:) cant wait

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Lucky you Brittney! I've never been but I know you'll have an amazing time! How long are you going to Disney for? Nice for you to have something that you know is going to happen, and is going to happen on a definite date (!!) to look forward to. ??

For the last year I've been saying to myself that "if I'm not pregnant by (certain event/point of the year)" then I've got a problem. I said it to myself when my friend went to work in France for 3 months and she's been back for a year now! All of those 'certain points' have been and are long gone now.

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hey ladies. perfect tip list. thanks katie. sounds like u to r doing well @ keeping busy. i just found out im going to disney in sept. im so excited!! its one of my fav vaca spots. its bitter sweet bc its my fav place but the last time i went was last sept and i was going through my mc. its crazy how a yr has gone by and im still not pregnant. but im trying to focus on the trip, think good thoughts and b excited:)

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Good suggestions Katie!

Had a nice day thanks. Been doing some gardening and watching alot of TV! Have eaten lots of junk food and even made it to the gym this weekend for the first time in weeks (I've stopped going during my tww 'just incase'!!!. I know I could go and take it easy but I don't want to risk anything). I'm aching so much right now from it though! ?

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read a good book, watch a favorite movie, do some daring cooking, shop, go through your closet and donate clothes you haven't worn in a year, go for a walk, get some ice cream, garden, do yoga or meditation, get more ice cream, play with a dog or cat, take a nap, and above all try to relax (I know easier said than done) .

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hey ladies. glad to see everyone is keeping busy. same here. just trying to fill my time so i dont think about ttc all the time. and now that im in the tww i gotta fill lots of time. haha

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You've got a great weekend ahead Katie!

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sharon-ted is pretty funny. a little racy but good. its hot and humid here today. I'm planning to go to yoga today. watching polo tomorrow and working tomorrow evening, and I have my nephew's christening Sunday. busy bee. what about you brittney?

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Glad you're keeping busy Katie. I always thought I'd be married with 2 kid by the time I was 25. How wrong I was!! I'll be lucky to have 1 while I'm 35!!

Have you ladies got any other nice plans for the weekend? I want to go see Ted at the weekend, as it's out on the uk now and I haven't been to the cinema for ages!

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staying busy with dh away. ive got lunch plans and taking the cats for their shots today.

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Sorry ladies had a really busy day yesterday so didn't get chance to log on. Sorry to hear that the crinone didn't do what it was supposed to this month Katie. Always better to laugh than cry. Stay strong Katie. How are you feeling with dh away? Try to keep busy (not on Google!!!!) so that you keep your mind occupied.

Hope you're soreness has worn off Brittney. How many trigger shots do you need to do? I'm 35 later this year so not that young.

Sorry I'm sure you've told us this already but are you both ttc#1 or #2? I'm ttc#1

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hey ladies I just left a message with the Dr. office. Ymir alert...the spotting seems worst when I use the bathroom. I had some period like bleeding this morning in addition to the brown clumpy crinone discharge. dh has a Dr appointment next week and will ask about fertility testing for him. he has low testosterone which he gets a shot for once a month but I'm wondering if the shot is interfering with ttc. I need to stay off google!

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good luck today katie. let us know what happens.

i took my trigger shot last night. this was the first time i did it in the belly. uhh im sore now.

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I'm kind of hoping that the new clinic will offer different suggestions before going to ivf. I'm hoping that they'll tell me I've got a good chance with iui. But then is really love to be able to have 2 children and, if I'm lucky enough to have any children at all and it takes this long for each, I don't have that much time left. That makes me tempted to just go to ivf. I think I'll wait and see what the new clinic suggests and then make my decision.

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Thank you Katie. Im pleased its over with and it's also nice knowing that I can chat to her if I ever need to.

Good idea calling the Dr tomorrow to see what they suggest. Don't feel bad calling them, it's their job after all and they're getting paid to do it!!

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Sharon I'm glad things went well with your boss. brittney thanks for the advice. it seems that I'm spotting a fair amount today so we'll see. I may see if the spotting continues tomorrow, turns into af, or goes away. you're not supposed to get your period on crinone but I have a feeling I may. I may call the Dr again tomorrow to see what he says...I'm sure he'll be thrilled to hear from me again. ha ha ha.

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My appt with the re is Tuesday and I can't wait to get a plan in place! Told my boss today and she was amazing. I cried a little, completely out of nowhere, but that was fine. She made me promise to take it easy whilst I'm doing the ivf treatment and said she'd give me any support I need. Turns out she conceived her youngest with Clomid, so she kind of knows what we're going through.

Katie I have always only ever tested when af is late but, since your dh will be away on test day would probably end up testing on Wednesday, if I was in your shoes. Although if you do and you do get a negative, you must remember that it is still early and that you are still in with a chance. Or, if you decide not to test, you could wait til dh is back then you can either share your great news with him straight away or get his support if it is negative. I agree, it is a very tough decision.

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hmm thats a hard one. i always waited until my missed period bc thats when i got a positive last time. i also hate taking tests when dh knows bc i hate dissapointing him. i get bloodwk done so i dont take tests. but on the other hand it would b nice for him to know if u got a positive before he left.

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I'm getting nervous to test. technically tomorrow is Cd 25 for me. I'm only thinking of testing tomorrow because if its positive dh will be home in the morning and I can share the news. should I wait to test Saturday,? I'm getting cold feet.

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katie- one more day till testing:) ru gonna be able to keep it a secret from dh if its positive until he gets back??

sharon- when is ur appt with ur RE?? im excited for u to start that journey. its scary, educating and rewarding.

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dh will be away from wed morning through late Saturday or very early Sunday morning. on the bright side it will give me a chance to clean the house without him messing it up.

brittney- one good follicles all you need! hope bding is fun!

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Brittney I'm not surprised that you're relieved for the shots/scans to be over for at least a couple of weeks, it must be so tiring. And of course having it all on your mind all the time makes you think about ttc even more than normal, bet you've been thinking of nothing but for the past couple of

months. 1 follicle could still bring you the news you've wanted for so long! ?

Glad you've got some things planned for while dh is away Katie. Although what a shame it is that he's going to be away at your most emotional time of the month!!! ??I hope you have good news too.

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hey ladies, well i only had one follicle. i was upset last week about going from 5 to 1 but i feel better today. its just meant to be this way and it only takes 1. so we will just bd the next few dys and see what happens. its kind of a relief to know i dont have to go to the doc for two weeks since we arent doing insemination this round. i needed a little break.

sharon- im sure u will do fine telling ur boss. it can b emotional.

katie- so how long is ur dh gone again?

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we actually saw the movie while in Ireland last summer...we had a crazy day driving one of my husband's aunts to the hospital for a broken ankle. after the 2 hour drive where I nearly threw up from car sickness the inbetweeners movie was a nice evening activity. its not as good as the show though.

if you get upset while speaking to your boss don't beat yourself up. its normal to be emotional about something you want so much.

I have a few things planned for the weekend while hes away . hopefully I will have good news but we'll see.

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Oh and I love the Inbetweeners too, I've seen all of them many times and they're still just as funny. Jay is genius!!! Have you seen the film yet? Not quite as funny as the series but still good!!

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How did you get on today Brittney?

You will be fine Katie, You will know either way very soon and then you can deal with the outcome, whatever it may be. Hoping so much that it's a good outcome for you. ?? Do you have things to keep you busy/occupied whilst dh is away?...I know that if I'm on my own I obsess about everything far more than normal and end up driving myself a little mad with all the thinking.

I'm telling my boss tomorrow and I kind of wanted to tell her today, think I just want to actually talk about it now and I know she'll be a great listener. Just hope I don't get upset, don't think I will though!

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good luck brittney!

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i love us of tara as well:)

sharon- u crack me up bc ur already counting down for the wkend.

katie- im excited for wed for u!! when i was pregnant my boobs didnt hurt until about 4 dys after my missed period so it could be a good sign. i have my dr appt during lunch today so fx and ill let u know how it goes. im nervous:)

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sharon- my husband loves Dr. who, I love Graham Norton and we both love the inbetweeners

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dh leaves wed morning and comes home in the wee hours of Sunday morning. I'm trying to stay positive but I don't want to be crushed. my stomach seems a bit off but who knows. like I said my bbs still aren't sore which is odd. I do have some brown spotting that I think is from the crinone.

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It was 11pm Sunday in the uk, when it was 6pm your time, so we must be 5 hours ahead.

Yes the wine was very good, will no doubt have some more at the weekend (I am counting down the days until the weekend already!) and then that's it for another 3 weeks!!

We must have quite different tv shows here in the uk, as I've never heard of the ones that you mention. But I do love trash tv and we have alot of that here in the uk too!

Let us know how you get on today Brittney! Fx'd!!

Hope they are symptoms that you're having Katie!! Is dh going to be away long, from Saturday?

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sharon- when on af let the wine flow!

brittney-im not into weeds but I love Dexter, the big c true blood, United States of Tara...I'm a Tv junkie!

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brittney-things sound promising for you. I hope those little guys catch up.

I hope I'm preggo because I'm really testy lately

I'm anxious and pissy most of the time. not fun!

just got home from watching a charity polo match. it was fun but hot!

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a glass of wine sounds awesome:) i had a nap after church and now about to watch weeds on netflix. do u all watch that?? my husband and i have a few fav shows: weeds and breaking bad. i can also get him to watch americas got talent.

back to work tomm. sharon, how big is the time difference from here. its 6pm sunday eastern time here.

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Thank you, am quite surprised at how strong I'm feeling. Have had a few moments today where I've felt a bit low but am fine on the whole. Had some wine with lunch which helped a little!

Brittney - Hope the twinges bring you good news tomorrow. Mh fingers (and toes) are crossed for you to have 2 perfect ones! ?

Katie - things are sounding promising for you, they sound like symptoms! Never before in our lives, did we wish it upon ourselves to feel sick and so tired!!! Only 2 more days till test morning!! My fingers (and toes) are crossed for you too!! ?

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hey ladies, im sorry sharon but im so proud of u for staying so positive. it makes a difference in this whole process. when u ladies r strong it makes me stronger:) katie, im so excited for u. i got a big fx for you!! the crinone can be a tricky thing with symptoms, i totally understand the frustration but maybe since no sore boobs then its a good thing since u usually have it:)

i have an appt tomm. ive had lots of twinges so im hoping they r growing and will catch up with the shots help:)

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I'm a little crampy, i have a dull headache and very tired but that could be from the crinone. weirdly my bbs are not sore like they usually are but idk.

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Thank you Katie, I feel ok about it actually, as by the time my next AF arrives I should have a good idea of when my treatment (whatever that may be) will be starting. And it'll be a few days before mine and dh's holiday, so I should be in a good place then. I'm normally in a horrible mood all day when AF arrives after days of thinking am I/aren't I. Today I feel quite normal.

It won't hurt to start testing Wednesday. Would be amazing if you get your BFP before dh goes away as well! Are you having any symptoms yet?

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sorry Sharon. keep hope for the next cycle.

I have to test because I'm on crinone. af wont come when you're on progesterone. I should test Saturday but I'm debating testing wed. because dh will be away in Saturday. I know it would be early (cd25) but I got a positive the last time on cd25.

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Morning ladies! Temp dropped to coverline and AF arrived this morning. Was hoping for a lie in but the cramps woke me up!! ?

Katie - nothing is tmi on this board!!! When are you going to start testing? Or will you be able to wait it out to see if AF arrives?!

How are you feeling today Brittney?

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hey ladies- ii just got in from bartending and I'm catching up with you. brittney stay hopeful. maybe with more positive thoughts we can get our wish...it cant hurt.

sharon- a bbq sounds awesome! we had steak last night and. it was delicious.

I'm on cd21 now enjoying the crinone morning discharge...tmi? hoping this is the month. I'm certainly more cranky than usual. I got in from work and my dh didn't vacuum like he said he would and made even more of a mess. I went up to bed because I was afraid I'd kill him...I'm usually more mellow than that.

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Hope you're feeling more positive today. As you say, it's still really positive that you have one and you may still get more yet, there's still a good chance for you. I hate how we can feel so positive about things one minute and then so so down and upset the next.

We've (i say we but i mean dh!!!) just lit the BBQ now and will be getting the steak on it ASAP! Having a glad of traditional lemonade and as soon as AF shows get face I'll be changing that for some wine or beer instead!! ?

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hey ladies, thanks for the supporting words. i was really down last night. these shots r expensive, time consuming and not comfortable. i was sad to think i went through all that for nothing. but it could be worse, at least i have one. i could have none or five. and i def dont want more than two @ a time for safety reasons. im still doing a higher dose of shot to see if the others catch up. i have a scan monday, fx.

sharon- im with u. when she arrives i eat and do things i wanna do when i cant bc i "might" be pregnant. a bbq sounds like soooo much fun. wish we could join u in london;)

katie- whats going on w u?? how is ur cycle coming?? i just bought more crinone....yay. lol.

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Oh I will be doing just that! Having a BBQ tonight and I have wine in the fridge ready and waiting for the witch to arrive!! ?

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Sharon if af arrives indulging is what you need. not that food should be a crutch but we all know there is comfort in it. have a glass of wine too. letyourself reboot and you may feel a bit better.

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Put it this way Brittney, even if you have to do timed intercourse, there's still more hope/chance that this is your month, than for any other month so far!!! Hope that makes sense! Hoping for no more shots for you ?

That's very funny Katie, I would also be the one spotting the rude bits of the pics and chuckling away to myself!!

Kind of wish I was able to speak to one of my friends that has been through this too, but all of my trusted friends have got pg 1st, 2nd or 3rd try!!!

No AF yet, still spotting, but temp went down today (not below coverline yet but still quite a drop) so af'll be here today at some point!

Are you girls doing nice things this weekend? I'm trying to eat healthy and watch my weight but I think I'm going to spend it eating! Went out for dinner last night with some friends, take-out tonight and then going round mil's for lunch tomorrow!

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stay strong brittney. there's still a lot of hope. you already have one good one and 2 that are close. sorry you have to keep sticking yourself.

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hey ladies, sorry ive been in an all day meeting then the doc appt. well i guess my dose was too low the past few nights bc only one is growing. i have a 17.5, 12.5, 12.5, 10.5 on right and a 10.5 on left. im bummed. i was hoping for three good ones. she put me on a higher dose for the next three nights to see if the 12s can catch up. i know injections r a gamble bc u dont wanna over or under stim. i just felt good about this cycle but now it might b a bust if the other two dont catch up. if i only have the one i prolly wont d iui bc of the cost and will stick to times intercourse.

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yay brittney you are done! Sharon any sign of af?

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Ooh and last shot tonight, hopefully. Scan tomm afternoon!! Fx

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katie, thats hilarious. boys r much more silly than little girls.

i actually do talk to my dh but its bc its getting pricey so i want him to know whats going on. at first it drove him crazy but then he realized how much this baby means to me and how bad he wants it. so we talk some about it. not a ton bc i dont wanna wear him out but more than we used to. it helps bc im a people person so if i hold this stuff in ill go crazy and crack:) i have some friends who went through infertility so talking to her helps bc she knows how i feel.

dh knows i have this app but i just tell him the crazy stories i read about on rants n raves..lol.

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hey girls. I try not to mention too much of my crazyness to my dh. he'd tell me to relax which might puss me off. I just spent the day with my bff's 2 boys. video games, chuck e cheese, drawings that always look like penis and balls...I thought it was supposed to be snakes and snails and puppydog tails.

how was your day?

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Yes my boss is female and I get on really well with her so know she'll be fine with it. Am most nervous about telling her because I'm not sure if I really want to open up and talk about it. Dh and I don't really talk about it because I know that if I start I won't stop and I don't want him to get fed up with hearing about all the detail. He doesn't even know I have this app, google everything ttc related, use opks, think about ttc every waking minute etc!

Do you talk about everything with your dh?

Hopefully you won't have to do any more shots now, then you can treat yourself to night AF the movies...great distraction!!

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i had a shot last night and one tonight. it kinda sucks bc i cant do much @ night now since i have to take my shot @ 830. its like i have to sit around and b home @ that time for the shot. i want to go to the movies tomm but i cant if i have to do my shot. uhhhh. i have a scan tomm so ill find out if i gotta keep taking them or not. i shouldnt complain bc they r doing their jon:)

i hope ur boss understands. is it a woman?? usually women are more understanding with these kinds of issues. gl with it. im sure it will b fine. i try to always go really early so its before wk and i dont miss much.

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Exactly, that's why I'm pretty ok about it. It feels so much better having a plan!

Are your shots all over now (hopefully forever) Brittney?!!

It does mean I'll be telling my boss about things next week though! Eeeek!!! ?

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that sucks sharon but u have a plan in place and that takes alot of pressure and stress off u.

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Transgender children So I just learned that in my kids school district (my kids aren't in school yet my oldest will be starting kindergarten next September) there are twin boys who identify as girls. They are 5 years old. What's your opinions on this matter given they are 5!!! I don't believe that at that age they really understand the whole thing. So the entire school had to take a course on how to handle transgender children. For example they can't say girls go this or boys do that. What are your thoughts on the matter? Do u think the parents are behind this? Idk because I haven't met the parents or children. I just think at 5 it's very young for children to really understand. What do u ladies think?