circumcision at 2
My son has been grabbing his diaper lately and occasionally whimpering. The doctor said he has slight phymosis (sp) and it could fix itself or he could get circumcised now incase it doesn't. I chose to wait a year or so at least until hes potty trained. Does anyone have any experience with this correcting itself? Really would hate to have him undergo surgery this late.
That sounds a lot like ballooning then! I would definitely just try a steroid cream first and give a call to an intact friendly urologist. We have many here but of course every place differs. I believe Intact America has a list as well. Or you could always ask on their Facebook pages through private or public message for recommendations in your area. But if it is ballooning, it's incredibly common and normal.
I agree, the bath recommendation didn't seem right to me. He also retracted it there without asking. It happened so fast I was more in shock but figured he knew what he was doing. This is the third doctor who retracted it without my permission at some point. I let the other ones have my 2 cents but figured today was different. I dont understand how their not up to date on this stuff.
Phimosis has nothing to do with the adhesions that naturally exist between the foreskin and the head of the penis. Phimosis occurs when the foreskin is to tight or snug over the head of the penis and it causes pain when the foreskin is retracted.
Since a two year old still has natural adhesions there is no way that this is an accurate diagnosis. The foreskin can't be retracted to determine if it is too tight or not.
Not to mention, the only person that should be retracting the foreskin is the owner of said foreskin. Most US doctors have absolutely no idea how to care for an intact penis. The doctor suggesting that you should be retracting the foreskin during baths is a giant red flag that he/she has no clue what they are talking about.
Your best bet is to seek out a urologist with experience with intact patients and see what his/her advice is regarding your sons occasional discomfort. I wouldn't be buying Doctor no experience with an intact penis' advice on what is happening with your son. He/she is uneducated on the subject.
I really want to avoid surgery but I dont want his pain to get any worse than it is now. I looked online and some people said the skin was just stretching? Does that mean it will go away? Ugh ?.
Edit: looked on whole network, I am semi convinced it could just be seperating. Im definitely going to get a second opinion, im obviously torn on what to do because my gut doesn't tell me to go ahead on this one just yet. Thanks for all the advice!
Thanks for all the feedback. I have alot to think about. Ilf I do I will have it done before he's potty trained. Im going to call a urologist tommorow and also search wholenetwork. I know its not supposed to fully be retaractable yet but somehow the way it is , is making urination painful. Sometimes I notice on the potty he has difficulty going and the top gets swollen until the urine comes out. He doesnt cry and grab his diaper constantly, but when he does and says pee pee hurts it causes attention (especially while in daycare)im going to explain to them whats going on and that im working on resolving this.
A child that young can not have phimosis- the foreskin is supposed to be fused to the glans still. It's completely normal for his foreskin to still be fused to the glans; the average age for full retraction is 10!
Please, search the Whole Network for an intact friendly urologist. It's pretty standard procedure to just encourage him to "play" with himself in the tub to help loosen the skin or have a doctor prescribe a steroid cream to help loosen the skin, if he is in pain. But generally speaking if he can pee and isn't in pain, just leave him be. I would certainly try a steroid cream before just consenting to a circ for him. The odds of a boy needing a medically necessary circ are over 1/16,000 (when he has never been prematurely retracted).
While I chose not to circumcise my son, there are exceptions that should be considered. It sounds as if he's having some sort of complications. That, in my book, is an exception. At least you can say you tried. I would probably have it done now before he got too much older. There's no point in making him suffer.
I wouldn't wait. Only because I had a friend who went through the same thing with her oldest. She waited to see if it would fix itself, it didn't so he had to get circumcised and he went back to being in diapers. He was fully potty trained before the procedure. She kept telling me that she wished she would have done it before potty training.
I think u should get it done now. They told my sister the same exact thing about my nephew he was 13 months they said it might correct it self she waited till he was 3yr worst decision it was way much more painfull for him he didnt want to go potty she had to put a diaper on him and put alot of vaseline thats the only way he got relief cause if she put underwear his lil wee wee would get stuck to it cause it would bleed. But do ur research only mommy knows best. Ive always got my boys circumcised 2 to 3 weeks after birth to avoid any issues i didnt want my boys to go through what my poor nephew went through.
Honestly having him in diapers he wont be touching anything like he will on undies.
Its not going to be pretty at this stage the longer you wait you run into it getting worse or him remembering more.
This is why i hate when people say circumcision is purely cosmetic. Because sometimes its not.
My own son screamed in pain everytime he urinated from birth until he was circumcised he was young enough that it was still able to be done in the pediatricians office but the time he suffered was not great.
He also said at his age now the procedure would not be pretty but then I wouldnt have to worry about it. If it does get worse idk if the process/pain will be any less for him now or in a year. I feel torn what to do I thought not circumcising was the best choice at the time.
I just had a chance to see the comments, basically what blaw said is the case, especially him still being in a diaper its uncomfortable urinating and hes always pulling on his diaper. If he does get circd Id like him to at least be potty trained ( in process of) to prevent infections. Im confused because I was always told not to retract and the dr made it seem like I should have been retracting all along. He also encouraged me to gently pull the foreskin back during bath time which im not entirely comfortable with. He said the surgery was up to me , small chance it could improve. I chose to wait it out but if it gets worst I feel like I'll have no other option ?.
Thanks ladies! He has an appointment with a urologist Nov.1 im going to try a holistic doctor and get a steroid creme in the time being.