Offensive or not?
I know this is old news and disney has already pulled the costumes off the shelves but it's new to me. I don't think it's a big deal it's a costume portraying the character from a Disney movie. What are your opinions?
It also said they were annoyed at how comical he was. Something about humor and brawn being more important than smarts when thats not true to Maui.
@ging it's not a fictional story like Harry Potter. Maui is based on a "real" demigod.
??♀️ I don't think the costume is offensive. I think if they have a problem with the costume they should have a problem with the movie, but some do have a problem with the movie and that I can kind of see. I don't think it's brown face because the skin color. They needed a skin for the tattoos so they chose Maui's because it's a Maui costume.
It's a story. A fictional one. Like Harry Potter. Needs no political correctness. Even the costumes. If you are teaching a cultural class.. debate it or don't show it. Don't even get me started on kids seeing incorrect images 90 percent of the children's images are depicted of fictional occurrences like talking animals, getting hurt without consequences and zero manners. (Back talk and name calling) I'm more offended when they say stupid in a kids show than what "outfit" kids will chose to wear afterwards. PS..I think Ariel shows too much skin. >> Filter what you let your children watch and use that to develop interest and spark real actual fact based conversations to learn and research about different cultures.
So what I gather from that is if they didn't portray him obese would they then still be offended? That seemed to be the main concern. Oh well I see he is seen as a very sacred figure in their culture. Disney then shouldn't have made the film at all then.
I see. I just don't understand why they are upset over a child dressing up as their favorite Disney character. They aren't making fun of it. If people have such a problem with the costume as far as him being an important role in their history then why haven't I heard anything about people being upset over the movie. They made it into a kids animated movie. According to their reasons wouldn't that be offensive too?
@thisisfeeny from my understanding, they heavily researched the Polynesian culture for authenticity to the movie, straight down to the costume that Moana was wearing herself. Even the girl who voice acts Moana is a 16 year old girl from Hawaii. I think majority of their voice cast are actually Polynesian.
So I would be interested as to why someone would be offended over the movie unless they somehow went completely way off course of their actual history and interpreted it in a completely wrong way.
As for the costume, I wanted my DS to be Maui this year. I was wondering how to do the "tapestry" as part of his costume, and haven't figured it out yet. ??♀️
My question is then why didn't people get offended when the movie came out? There are costumes for every Disney movie character pretty much. was it not expected that there would be costumes for kids?
I think the offence might come in when you consider that Maui was an actual figure in their culture. It's not just a Disney character. It'd be one thing if it was like with Hercules, where the culture and beliefs are long dead, but Polynesian culture is alive and well, so it's something to consider.
Personally, I'm not offended, but I'm not in a position to say whether or not it's offensive.
I'm not sure what to think of the costume. I don't find it offensive, but I'm not of that culture. I can see why some would be though. I'm half Native American and there's always been a debate about having those costumes out too. My family's expressed their reasons why they don't like it and it's cuz their roots go a lot deeper. I personally don't feel strongly one way or the other, but I don't think this was intended to be offensive. If anything they're just ignorant to the culture.
As a person who lived in Hawaii for almost 10 years, there isn't a thing they won't protest over. Want to build a telescope? You're ruining their culture. Want to alleviate traffic by building a train? You're ruining the beauty of Hawaii. Ferry between the island? Nope - ruining the reefs (although somehow the giant cruise ships are fine). Hell, they protested a Walgreens for years in front of the store. One 5 mile freeway took 20 years to get built because of all the protests. And it's like that with literally everything. If it has to do with the Hawaiian islands (as this movie obviously does), it WILL be protested, so this doesn't surprise me at all. You could probably say "island men are hot" and they will tear you down with how racist you are by calling them island men and how you need to learn to respect their culture.
Every year there is a Halloween debate/debacle. Last year I was told that my son's police man uniform and my burgler costume was offensive. I guess I'm in the "I don't get it" boat, because I'm wondering how else would a kid get those tattoos all over their body if they didn't have the printed skin? I know parents don't have the patience or time to self apply removable tattoos like that. People would be just as offended if the "skin" with tattoos was white instead of brown, because then Disney would be white-washing their culture. I hate that we can't let kids be kids anymore, that parents have to really think on a costume before it's bought, in the name of political correctness.
From what I've read most islanders don't have an issue with it. But there are some who do. And people that are not islanders also were offended.
I'd like to say it's not offensive. It's just like buying my kid a Cinderella dress, a darth Vader costume, etc. It's designed to resemble a specific character. If Polynesian people don't like the costume then I would think that it would be paired with not liking the actual character otherwise it doesn't make sense. And I haven't heard any complaints about Maui or Moana as characters.
If it was a costume for a general island man, then yeah I would get it. But it's a specific character, that many kids love and would have liked dressing as. However, I'm not a part of the culture that inspired this character, so how I feel doesn't matter. What matters is how the people who inspired this character feel.
Yesterday I went out with my boyfriend went to watch a movie, me and him don't live together yet. but point is yesterday when he was dropping me off his like sleep over at my house witch the mom and dad lives. I said no,
his response was why is everyone deciding or making choices for you and their going to do the same with the baby, when I know that's not true. what he thinks is that my mom tells me not to sleep over. So he left all mad. and I felt in my heart that he went on and cheated on me...
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@ for.fox. A fictional story inspired by legends, people or actual places or by referencing logistical or cultural facts doesn't make it non fiction or a biography. The whole glowing diamond...shrinking etc. to me is as magical as the game of quiddich. This is my view. I'm sure it's not a common one.