FFS

@em90 poor soul :((( that's terrible :(

@mckenziesmummy CIO would have been a major stress for Daria, I don't think she would vomit, I think she would cry all night with maybe an hour sleep max all broken up into small chunks. And then she would sleep it off during the day on her play mat or when I gave her a small cuddle or in the pram, so basically where she would feel safe and not alone. Never doing this to my child... The health visitor's point is that Daria's sleep is terrible - it is, she wakes a minimum of 3 times a night, needs milk and long long cuddle to fall asleep again, and during the day she has half of her nap on me - and we should fix it before #2 and it becomes too unbearable with all the extra stress and sleep deprivation. She has a point, the kids will wake each other up and neither of them will go back to sleep without my help, I will be a complete zombie. Still I don't feel comfortable doing anything cruel, and it doesn't look like there is any humane advice out there...

@missashleyanne so far Daria only three up in bed once (when she had a bug), I had to change the sheet, mattress protector, scrub the mattress itself, change and bathe Daria again because the vomit was all over her clothes, face, hands, hair... How do they possibly propose changing with sheet whilst keeping the baby in the cot??? Imbicilles...

@beffgoude I might if she tries to be intrusive, I have a suspicion that she might ask me to keep a diary of Daria's sleeping and wakening and what we did to get her to fall asleep again. I don't want to discuss our cosleeping habits and sids and bad sleeping associations. Might have to say thank you for your help, but our family sleeping habits are private and there is no need for the NHS to be that involved

@mckenziesmummy I've been told off for that too! Apparently I should water Daria's milk down...

What a crock of shit. Sorry! Whenever my oldest was sick when he was younger (not from cry it out, we didn't do it) he would shake and panic when he was about to be sick.

@missashleyanne, yes I know! I think it's cruel! Letting you child get to that state is just beyond me xx

@missashleyanne, it's bonkers isn't it?x

@kate_smith i cannot believe this was actually recommend 😵 I'd literally just tell her you ain't comfortable with this book and some of its methods.

@kate_smith, what the actual fuck! I don't get the health visitors aye! They're basically telling you to let your baby to cry it out to the point they are sick! But I get a earful because McKenzie is one and has a single bottle in the night! Wtf X

@mckenziesmummy @natalie2255 @beffgoude yes, not only is such cruelty advocated in an actual "up to date" book, it was given to me by my NHS health visitor!!!! She wants to discuss the book with me when she comes over in a week's time and make a plan of work on Daria's sleep. Obviously I will never do CIO with Daria after the fiasco we had when we tried it last time, but how am I supposed to trust anything else from the book that has that?

this actually annoys the heck outta me that this is published in an actual book? Somebody proof read this and still thought it was okay? like wth? I'm all for the CIO method, but that just seems beyond traumatic/slightly abusive in my view tbh.

🤔🤔😞I personally don't think that's ok

What!