Ive had the fast muscle spasm like feeling about 2 inches to the left but a little lower of my belly button. @bentleysmomma
That was a personal opinion^^^^ I felt my baby at 12 weeks, I'm also petite so it could depend. But I never got flutters, from 12 weeks and on I've felt little tiny kicks and pokes even if it's just him jumping around. It feels like a fast muscle spasm or twitch, like someone poking you really fast inside
I felt like I had butterflies and the kicks you will know it's hard to explain lol
you will probably feel flutters but for me I actually felt the baby move at 20 weeks
That's where mine started! I didn't know it was him at first and as they got stronger and harder I knew it was him all along