@martinajjones, 😉 yay no problem

the knees thing seems to be working the best so far! thanks @phasion

Stand , walk or get on knees and hands for a few minutes

I don't know. I wish I knew. try google? it always has interesting things to say

I've been trying that for awhile now. my back is hurting cause I'm panicking and I have no idea what I can do. this happens a lot but its never been this extreme @chelsea0820

I pat the spot or push in kinda hard in the spot you want them to move and they usually will go there to check it out