when do you start feeling actual movements? Right now it feels like flutters or gas when he moves

I started around 19 weeks I think or a little before

But now at 21 weeks they are stronger

I started to feel real movement at 18 weeks and caught them on video at 21 weeks, now they're just straight up painful.

@1sttimemommy84, I only started feeling hard or real movements recently and I'm 26 almost 27 weeks. Otherwise it feels like little tiny thuds or flutters.

18 & 13 for my kids