Well that's great. I use lip liner all over bc lip sticks usually mess up on me but I love matte. I buy the nyx plum which is hard to find now bc they have changed it and the nyx hot pink it looks very similar u will have to check them out super cheap like 5.00 but my preferred brand of makeup is Bobby brown I love their stuff @adrianamead I will check out the Kat Von thanks
@txyogagirl, thanks. It is kat von matte Color: Bauhau5 (deep raspberry). It's my first one I bought Im obsessed with it. I want all the colors but they are 30$ a piece lol. But it last the whole day!