Lol xx

Wait till there 18 like mine lol

@suzie80, hahaha it's my soon to be teenage son causing me grief xx

With the way my angelic turned demon to idler is behaving atm yeah I feel mad lol

We must be mad lol @suzie80 xx

Non of my last 4 have I been fully engaged either mine like to do the unstable lie thing lol

This is baby no5 for me but none of them have ever engaged until I've been induced lol @suzie80 xx

Me personally would say at or near the brim so not entered the pelvis so not far from starting to engage where you would go through the 1/5 -5/5 engaged but that's just how I'd take it when I've had my other children