To all my LGBT people's I love you but this bathroom thing is too much. You got your same sex marriage why asking for something that can put others at risk for dangers? Our children also. What about our rights? It NOT just about you. I love you for embracing for who you really are but this I'm against because I see the dangers that come with this law.

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emily·Мама сына (9 лет)

ANYWAYS. @deafmama16 i have to agree that it is nice that you don't seem to be bashing anyone for disagreeing with your opinion, but rather listening and responding in a mature manner. That is so great to see haha.

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emily·Мама сына (9 лет)

@mcrowell0970...you're 19. How did you study law for two years..did you even study PRE law?? just saying...I didn't need to go through my 2 years of actual law school to know what a hate crime is though...

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emily·Мама сына (9 лет)

@dflowers, I wish I could like your first comment. I was going to say the same thing, couldn't a guy crossdress to get into the women's bathroom long before this went all over the media? I won't even say anything else on this post because I think the post is ridiculous. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion though, so I'll leave it at that.

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Shaylee Simmons·Мама дочки (9 лет)

@mcrowell0970, it's okay lol

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danni·Мама четверых детей

totally agree!! @deafmama16,

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danni·Мама четверых детей

yes I'm scared sending my daughter to the bathroom a man be dressed up or vise versa too far I think! I can see so many situations coming up!

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Keora Willis·Мама двоих (8 лет, 9 лет)

@shayleesimmons, aw hon that what this app is for other than pregnancy related we can talk about something that going on outside without any drama and be free to express our opinion and to listen to each other even though the update is slow but peaceful is good :) I'm glad you feel appreciated thank you :)

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Shaylee Simmons·Мама дочки (9 лет)

@deafmama16, I was pleasantly surprised at how tactfully you listened to these opinions that are so different than your own...I feel like this thread is one of the most peaceful that I've seen and it's appreciated

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Keora Willis·Мама двоих (8 лет, 9 лет)

That should put end to convo lol @shayleesimmons @mcrowell0970 ok thank you for your wonderful valid opinion so let just hope the best for everyone and things get better. How everyone pregnancy/ post pregnancy going? :)

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Shaylee Simmons·Мама дочки (9 лет)

@mcrowell0970, everyone here has been discussing this peacefully without name calling until you showed up, how funny

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Keora Willis·Мама двоих (8 лет, 9 лет)

Ok ok ok let's calm down. We all have a right to express our opinions on the matter but let's not go too far. @mcrowell0970 @shayleesimmons and you're right @dflowers that because people who take pleasure of beating other people because they don't like the person for their preference just make them bigger assholes

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Shaylee Simmons·Мама дочки (9 лет)

@mcrowell0970, I didn't see your other comments until mine already posted so calm down 😂 Providing my side of an argument doesn't make me a smart ass. Don't mention me in a comment if you don't want to debate over it because you won't change MY opinion either. I'm entitled to it and I stand by it.

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Daisy·Мама двоих (9 лет, 13 лет)

@mcrowell0970, it is illegal to beat up anyone because they're trans. It's called a hate crime.

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Keora Willis·Мама двоих (8 лет, 9 лет)

My thing is it's no body business to know if a person is LGBT or not. As long they are minding their business and we do the same without no problem this would not be a big issue. This law wouldn't help any but make the issue worse. @mcrowell0970 @shayleesimmons

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Shaylee Simmons·Мама дочки (9 лет)

@mcrowell0970, that's how I feel too. It should be left alone. But sadly, people are transphobic and have created this huge panic over this and it will have to go one way or the other...and in that case, I think they should legally be allowed to use whatever restroom they please for the reasons I have stated. It is literally a pot to piss in.

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Shaylee Simmons·Мама дочки (9 лет)

@mcrowell0970, I don't think you realize it's a big deal now because people are trying to push laws that prevent transgenders from using their preferred bathroom. That is why they are fighting for that right. I've been talking about this in every comment I've tagged you in.

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Shaylee Simmons·Мама дочки (9 лет)
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Keora Willis·Мама двоих (8 лет, 9 лет)

I understand where you're coming from and what others are saying which I'm grateful for everyone opinions on this law but we can't always get what we want but it won't hurt to fight for it but no one not going to see eye to eye on this situation and other situations like the gun law and whatever is going on @alainalovesmommy

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Keora Willis·Мама двоих (8 лет, 9 лет)

The victims are NOT at fault and I KNOW the event is traumatic both ways. A person like me wouldn't be so blunt and just say go take defense class no that's harsh and not being mindful of the victims feelings. I mean like when things slowly settles down and you're not beating yourself up for something that wasn't your fault but you want to be strong again and get your dignity back. Self defense classes would help and be useful for whatever danger you're gonna be in next. You want to be prepared and not have the pain happen again @shayleesimmons

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Anna-marie·Мама дочки (10 лет)

I'm not saying that the bathroom idea is a good thing but some transgender people just want to go to the bathroom in peace . not all people are bad and sickos won't always go after children

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Keora Willis·Мама двоих (8 лет, 9 лет)

You got parents that do @alainalovesmommy that's their faults but no child should be the next victim.

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Keora Willis·Мама двоих (8 лет, 9 лет)

Than if a transgender woman can get in the bathroom without any problem what you need a law for? You got a breast and vagina go to the female bathroom but if you got a penis.....hold on I got to get this right lol if you got a penis and you look like a male go to the male bathroom. It's gonna be weird but y'all made it all this time before the gay marriage law was passed. No new law is needed. @klarrissab I'm sorry what happened to you and honey you didn't deserve that no one does and I hope that scum bag is in locked up or someone else putting him in a body bag right now.

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Becca VC·Мама сына (9 лет)

They are going to cross dress to go into your restroom annnnd... what? Listen to you pee? Eyeball your penis at the urinal? If someone wants to lure a child away there are far easier and far less suspicious ways to do it.

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Shaylee Simmons·Мама дочки (9 лет)

@deafmama16, I don't know girl that just doesn't make sense to tell someone that. If someone had told me after I was raped that I should have taken a self defense class and it wouldn't have happened I probably would have hit them. Anyone who assaults someone is the problem, not the victims. Trans are just people wanting to be safe and pee in peace. It may seem like a waste of time and money to you but that's where you gotta be open minded and imagine if it was your life or someone you loved.

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Melinda Parker·Мама четверых детей

What you're not looking at is, when the first molestation happens. The transgender will get the blame! Also yes them sickos can walk right on in sure, but now as long as they feel like a woman. They're able to do it legally! Then when the first case happens, whose name get bashed? Yup the transgender! So you're not going them a favor! Anyways why not just leave it the way it was, where they came in as they pleased. No one cares then, because if cops got called on a molester then, the cops could take action. Now the girls or boys will be "lying", due to a law that doesn't need to be made. Because transgender men and women have been using the bathroom of choice as is.

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Anna-marie·Мама дочки (10 лет)

its a bathroom you go in and out , you don't send kids in by themselves anyways . or just use the family restroom if one is there

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KB·Мама дочки (9 лет)

I'm not sacred or worried, I'm in no less danger than I was before and I have been attacked by a man dressed as a man while I was in a female locker room. He didn't need to dress or pretend to be a woman...Transgendered people are subject to sexual assault as well, I think it's unfair to force transgendered women to use a men's restroom when men could attack them in there, because they may have breasts and even a vagina. I wouldn't want to be forced to use a men's restroom...so if they live their life as a woman than they should be allowed to use the female restroom.

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Keora Willis·Мама двоих (8 лет, 9 лет)

True true being pregnant make it difficult to not use public restroom lol yet if this is going on what the point of this law? If it's not just the law enforcement but it also the anti-gay groups this law is not needed. It's a waste of time honestly. Maybe taking defense classes may help so they can fight back because they don't deserve to be beaten. @shayleesimmons

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Shaylee Simmons·Мама дочки (9 лет)

@deafmama16, well with that argument someone could tell you to pee in the comfort of your own home...you can't chose when you have to pee lol. And law enforcement isn't the main issue, trans people are getting beaten up in restrooms.

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Keora Willis·Мама двоих (8 лет, 9 лет)

Than what is the point? @sarahwilliams how about we make a law for law enforcement to back off with the LGBT communities? That make more sense so they won't get attacked more @klarrissab @shayleesimmons

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you were just in as much danger before, it's no different now.

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Keora Willis·Мама двоих (8 лет, 9 лет)

Pee in the comfort of your own home where you dont have to worry about the discrimination and the pain that you will endure from anti gay people @dflowers if it's only just for comfort that's a wrong way to go about it. In the end this law may NOT give trans the comforts that they fought for through this law. It not just rape. It could be something far more dangerous and it will hurt them and also us whatever it may be

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KB·Мама дочки (9 лет)

No one monitors the bathrooms anyways, I've never seen anyone standing outside the bathroom seeing if someone looks like a female or male or not. So how is this law any different than before? Anyone literally could walk into either gender bathroom if they wanted, dressed like whatever. Accompany your children if you are worried and go to the bathroom in twos.

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Shaylee Simmons·Мама дочки (9 лет)
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Shaylee Simmons·Мама дочки (9 лет)

With the laws they're wanting to pass preventing transgenders using their preferred bathrooms you can accuse anyone of looking like the opposite sex and they'll get dragged out by police...that actually already happened with a masculine looking woman. I personally feel that if you're worried about the safety of your children, don't send them in the restroom alone. I've been in the women's restroom when a man has come in with his daughters and no one cared.

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Daisy·Мама двоих (9 лет, 13 лет)

I don't think a law banning them from a restroom will keep rapists from raping any more than a law making rape illegal. Trans people just want to pee wherever they feel comfortable. You don't think a trans woman is more likely to be molested in the men's restroom?

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Keora Willis·Мама двоих (8 лет, 9 лет)

I know also too from experience with a military guy @klarrissab yes you're right but don't you see that it can just make it more worse than it already is? @arivera64 exactly! How you know who a trans? Should security guards be involved or cameras being installed in bathroom now to prevent and catch the criminal? What is exactly is this bathroom law going to do not just for the LGBT Communities but for our safety and privacy? What about our children who came out what if they become the victims?

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Keora Willis·Мама двоих (8 лет, 9 лет)

I know a cross dresser when I see one but never in a female bathroom where I am or wherever I go @dflowers I'm not only looking at the dangers for females but for both genders including childrens

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Well i also think about how many men and women are already comitting crimes in the bathrooms. There are men who touch boys and women who touch girls. Plus, how would you really know if someone is trans? I know some really masculine females and imagine someone stopped them and said they couldnt use the restroom because they look like a man?

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KB·Мама дочки (9 лет)

Trust me rapists and molesters will attack you no matter what law is in place. I know from experience...they don't need a law to break into a woman's bathroom or locker room to attack you.

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Keora Willis·Мама двоих (8 лет, 9 лет)

If this law is passed think about how many people who will say that they are LBGT but really aren't and they are rapist, child molesters, serial killers, eat you name it. This law can give them an open opportunity to commit drastic crime in a bathroom. Our LGBT brother and sister could possibly get beaten to death because of their sexually in a bathroom. Their is so many con that can possibly happen if this law is passed. Why ask for more when you got what you been fighting for all these years? Marriage. @Kayla 471 @arivera64 I'm not downing LGBT communities and I love them but it this law that I just see so many con with.

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KB·Мама дочки (9 лет)

How is it putting you in danger? If they feel they are a woman than they are most likely attracted to men and not worried about women in a restroom...also what about the straight men that share bathrooms with boys? Straight men are more likely to molest little kids than a transgendered one... I don't understand the fear. A guy could cross dress and attack you in a bathroom even before this law...

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Daisy·Мама двоих (9 лет, 13 лет)

Couldn't a guy cross dress and try to get into the women's restroom before too? Transgender people have been peeing beside you all along and you probably never realized it.

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dangers as in some guy can easily just cross dress to get into the women's restroom...

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I mean I understand it a little but I don't. I'm in the same boat you are.. why is it such a big problem now all of a sudden? it's not never an issue before..

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Whats the dangers?

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